I cannot understand how people can say weber is the best and second to none?? There are far, far superior gas grills out there...yeah, they cost a lot more, as Fire Magic, Lynx, Kalamazoo (on the waaaay upper end), and others are a lot more money, but there is no comparison in output, build quality, sturdiness, etc. Kind of like comparing a fully macked out $10k Jambo, Shirley, Pitmaker (etc, etc) to a Pecos picked up at Academy. Want to spend a grand vs 5k-10k, , sure pick up a weber or napoleon or others. As always, it usually comes down to money like many choices in life