Direct Heat Cooker Info

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Greetings folks!

This thread is for Brethren who have working knowledge on direct heat metal "cookers" such as those used prominently in Central Texas in places like Coopers, Lairds, Schoepf's etc. When I learned to cook years ago in Texas it was on direct heat cookers made out of 500 gallon propane tanks. I have NO need for anything that large today and would love to commission a smaller version of the "box style" direct heat cookers used by the restaurants listed above. I do not want anything too large, probably 36 inches wide (left to right) and 24 inches deep (front to back). I have some questions I would love answered from those who have "real time knowledge" of the cookers I am describing. I have attempted emailing a couple of restaurants but have not heard back.


1) What is the typical height from the fire to the cooking grate?


2) What is the height from the cooking grate to the lid?


3) What is the gauge or weight of the steel used in these style cookers? If the steel is 1/4" or heavier, do y'all think it could go even lighter for backyard personal use, or will that not hold the heat or warp too quickly.

4) Is the lid the same weight as the rest of the cooker?


5) Is there a need to employ any type of upper exhaust? Most of the time I do not see an exhaust on these as the imprecise fit of the lid allows for draw of the heat.


6) Do you have or know of any place that has design plans on file that I may purchase or receive a copy of? Unlike offsets, finding designs of direct heat cookers or people that know about them is much harder these days.


Big fan of the UDS and the WSM without the water pan but not interested in those right now....I want the BOX! hahahaha Thanks in advance for any assistance.
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=box...139016%2Fmy-new-abs-bar-be-cube-grill;350;467

http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/139016/my-new-abs-bar-be-cube-grill


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I know Paul Shirley at Shirley Fabrication makes them out of 1/4"-3/8" thick, 24"-30" diameter pipe; saw a double barrel trailer rig (I think it was headed to the Pacific NW) with one of his big 30" RF offsets and a 30" direct cooker rigs It had a charcoal drawer that rolled out of the back end, really neat and built with typical SF quality and attention to detail.
http://www.shirleyfabrication.com/

Or, Meadow Creek markets their "pig roaster" searies in a variety of sizes. Lighter weight but pretty nice cookers.
http://www.meadowcreekbbq.com/PR/index.php

For my $'s, I would give Paul a holler.
 
Some one needs to say "it" so it might as well be Me:becky: "Build a UDS" best direct heat pit in the business if 7 26 Sq in aint enough space get an 85 gal Drum and build a Mega UDS
 
Many thanks for all those who responded, I have looked at each of your suggestions! Still would appreciate anyone who might have specific measurements on the old school direct heat box cookers. Thanks again for the responses and for all who have looked in on this request.
 
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