You cannot have a true form of TOY unless each team competes against each other in a set number of contests where you count all finishes. The way KCBS does it now just rewards teams that cook all the time. There has to be a better way of doing this.
You cannot have a true form of TOY unless each team competes against each other in a set number of contests where you count all finishes. The way KCBS does it now just rewards teams that cook all the time. There has to be a better way of doing this.
There are still contests to be competed in but as of this listing,
30+ contests - 10 teams
25-29 contests - 9 teams
20-24 contests - 26 teams
15-19 contests - 51 teams
11-14 contests - 95 teams
10 contests - 26 teams
9 contests - 55 teams
8 contests - 48 teams
7 contests - 58 teams
6 contests - 58 teams
5 contests - 44 teams
You cannot have a true form of TOY unless each team competes against each other in a set number of contests where you count all finishes. The way KCBS does it now just rewards teams that cook all the time. There has to be a better way of doing this.
Interesting numbers. As team that has cooked 5 contests the last two years I'm in the camp of show us some rankings that have meaning to the majority of KCBS. How do we stack up against 1. Everyone 2. similar teams (rankings for teams that compete in 20+, 10+, 5+, etc).A true ToY program would count all of a teams comps not just the 10 best. Right now the ToY is pretty much of a game of those top 50 - 100 teams so if it was true and counted everything it would be a game of the top 10 teams.
Mike Peters had some numbers in the last meeting that were very interesting.
Interesting numbers. As team that has cooked 5 contests the last two years I'm in the camp of show us some rankings that have meaning to the majority of KCBS. How do we stack up against 1. Everyone 2. similar teams (rankings for teams that compete in 20+, 10+, 5+, etc).
For the TOY race hypothetically which would be the better team the one that cooked 13 contests and GC'd 10 of them or the team that cooked 32 contests and GC'd 11 times? I think there should be something in the system to account for the ratio of wins.
I agree there needs to be some changes to the program that get more teams involved but have no clue how they will do it. I would like to think that weighting a teams scores by the number of events they do would work but would than just hinder the teams that cook more events. Who knows changing this program will be a difficult task.
Until you have a competition circuit that has a set number of contests where all teams compete against each other and count all finishes you cannot have a true champion.
At the very least I would like to see a third column added to the TOY webpage that shows how many comps each team has participated in. For those of us that do less than 10, we could scroll down and see how we stack up against teams that have competed in the same # of comps.
I like this idea. That way you could keep track and make sure all your points are accounted for. I took the time last week to add my points and a few didn't match up to KCBS standings. Don't get me wrong because I couldn't give a chit. But there was a bug in the system last summer were it didn't show me (and a few other teams) even competing in a few comps.
Yep, before they started tracking by kcbs # we were listed as 3 separate teams.