Is this oak?

[smoke ninja]

Can I ask a dumb question?


OK one more, what's heartwood?

 

[jeffreywp1]

Here is a picture of a piece of maple in my stack with bark like op picture and no dark heartwood. I will sand this piece of wood today at work and take more pictures. Im sure there are some misidentified trees in those links. My point was that you cant go by bark alone.
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After comparing the pictures the bark is not the same.

 

[MikeyBfromTN]

Oak smells like chili sauce (the red, ketchup like sauce) to me. We did a large barn in oak and all i could think about was my grandmother canning chili sauce.

 

[jham0077]

Oh man..... You guys are gonna have to start collecting leaves with these samples.:doh:

 

[jham0077]

Can I ask a dumb question?


OK one more, what's heartwood?

It's the very center mass, the original sapling it all started from. Some trees have different color heartwood, some don't. But it depends on moisture and soil conditions alot too.

 

[cliffcarter]

Brown heartwood in a red maple split, very distinctive. Not the best pic, but the only one I've got in photobucket.

Trying to determine tree species from bark alone can be very difficult.

 

[jeffreywp1]

Brown heartwood in a red maple split, very distinctive. Not the best pic, but the only one I've got in photobucket.

Trying to determine tree species from bark alone can be very difficult.

How apparent is the color difference on the end grain?

 

[revkab]

Looks like some kinda wood, to me... Be interesting to see the inside - can you split a piece?

 

[1MoreFord]

Looks like it could be Post Oak.

 

[Happy Hapgood]

It's old. Look at all those rings!

 

[1buckie]

The bark & the core wood of the OP looks like the stuff I have.....not the best pic, I'll see if I still have any whole chunks to get pix.....
It's, I think, called valley white oak.....grows like weeds around here....all over the lowland where John Sutter's land was & on up into the foothills in the gold country......
Might not be exactly the same, as IND is a far stretch away, but could be a close relative maybe.....
The bark looks close......the way the actual wood looks appears even closer......

Yeah, here's the Quercus lobata on it.....epidemic to California.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercus_lobata

i did find a map of diversity of types of trees for where you're at....

http://www.na.fs.fed.us/spfo/pubs/misc/in98forests/webversion/images/figure10.pdf

 

[cliffcarter]

Split cut with miter saw-

Other side of the same split cut with a chain saw-

Different split-

The previous were all red maple.
This one is black maple-

 

[jeffreywp1]

It is not maple, it does not have the tell tale brown heartwood of maple.
I looked at your google search and saw at least one example of misidentified tree bark, is was an ash that someone thought was a black maple.
This is the site I use for tree ID, gives you pics of bark, flowers, fruit, twigs and other info.

http://dendro.cnre.vt.edu/dendrology/syllabus/biglist_frame.cfm

Looking at the OP pictures again, there is some dark heartwood on the only two pieces that you can see the center growth rings.

 

[jeffreywp1]

This is the OP picture blown up showing some darkens heard wood.

 

[1buckie]

Yeah, there is some darkish area there, but look at how thick & gnarly the bark is....an inch thick some places it looks like.....don't know, but it seems like the maples shown & others i've seen don't grow that rough & thick of bark............not sure now?

 

[Mo-Dave]

Do i need to break out the magnifier to see the "rays"?

No just take the right kind of medications.:wink:
Dave

 

[jeffreywp1]

Jeffreywp1 are a lumberjack?

Not a lumberjack or very familiar with trees. I have been a woodworker for 14 years and familiar with lumber in general. Even more so with oak. I was laid off one summer and worked with a guy that tore down old barns for the lumber. Nearly all the barns where mostly oak and white oak was in high demand. You can't really tell the difference between red and white oak %100 of the time by looking at it after shaving a clean spot. I did some research and found sodium nitrite solution sprayed on the end grain would stain white oak and not so much on the red oak. So I spent a whole summer playing the game of "What Kind of Wood is This"

 

[jeffreywp1]

Yeah, there is some darkish area there, but look at how thick & gnarly the bark is....an inch thick some places it looks like.....don't know, but it seems like the maples shown & others i've seen don't grow that rough & thick of bark............not sure now?

Check out the link of images of maple bark and don't forget there are many species of maple.

https://www.google.com/search?q=map...oLIBQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=924#imgdii=_

 

[1buckie]

this is becoming some kind of weird form of "Know your cuts of Meat"

Here's a few pics, may help a little....can't get "plated pics" (fresh cut) as the table saw's too small & the chain saw's broke right now...

End of larger piece:

3 smaller blocks cut to Chunk size for cooking....there's an inner bark, the three are showing most missing, all inner bark & mostly full bark, R to L.....

Outer on the big piece:

chunk next to Coastal Red oak ( the kind used for Santa Maria tri-tip) for comparison:

Hope this helps some.......thinking most (maybe not all types) oak has pretty thick heavy bark..........

 

[1buckie]

Yeah, I see now....the Purpleblow Maple (Acer truncatum). looks a heckuva lot like the oak (white) i just put up....could very well be.....