Godfather of BBQ
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Good call Jeremy, she is definitely on my short list of people I would love to meet. If anyone hasn't seen it yet, Netflix's Chef's Table Barbecue has a great segment on her and it's worth the watch.
I'm going to throw a name out there from completely out of left field: Henry Ford.
He developed the process and made Kingsford charcoal to eliminate waste from the wood used to manufacture the Model T's. I'm not sure what kind of outdoor cooking apparatus was available back in that day, but he sure steered it in the direction it's in now.
He developed the process and made Kingsford charcoal to eliminate waste from the wood used to manufacture the Model T's. I'm not sure what kind of outdoor cooking apparatus was available back in that day, but he sure steered it in the direction it's in now.
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Ford also produced the grills and other bbq accessories to go with his charcoal and sold it in his dealerships.
My nominee will be remembered by no one outside of west Texas, but if you grew up in Lubbock in the 60's and loved mesquite pit BBQ long before the modern era of Austin's claim on the "Real Texas BBQ" title, and long before Evie Mae's in Wolfforth, you know the name Guy Goen.
When I was a kid on the fence about attending Wednesday night "prayer meeting" at church on long summer evenings (I knew God had designed summer evenings for building forts and hunting "horny toads") I would hop in the car enthusiastically when my mom told me Guy Goen was going to be there after services with his BBQ trailer.
Guy Goen
MAY 20, 1906 - APRIL 2, 1991
All I could find online besides this picture is a brief mention in the obituary of his son, who was also a legendary west Texas pit master.
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/lubbock-tx/guy-goen-7235609
Guy H. Goen
OCTOBER 29, 1940 – JANUARY 1, 2017
When I was a kid on the fence about attending Wednesday night "prayer meeting" at church on long summer evenings (I knew God had designed summer evenings for building forts and hunting "horny toads") I would hop in the car enthusiastically when my mom told me Guy Goen was going to be there after services with his BBQ trailer.
Guy Goen
MAY 20, 1906 - APRIL 2, 1991
All I could find online besides this picture is a brief mention in the obituary of his son, who was also a legendary west Texas pit master.
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/lubbock-tx/guy-goen-7235609
Guy H. Goen
OCTOBER 29, 1940 – JANUARY 1, 2017
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Take a breath!
Fred Fountaine is certainly one of the godfathers of Texas barbecue
More on Guy Goen (and his father "Pres") from the
GOWEN RESEARCH FOUNDATION NEWSLETTER
Volume 4, No. 7 March 1993
1) James Presley “Pres” Goen went to Texas
“Pres” Goen Started with 1 Dollar and 1 Pony
James Presley “Pres” Goen began as a 14-year-old orphan
with “one dollar and one pony” and built one of the most
successful ranching operations in West Texas. He was born in
Johnson County, Texas September 6, 1870 of parents
unknown, according to Dickens County, Texas Death Book 7.
“Preston Goen, age 9” was enumerated in the 1880 census of
Johnson County in the household of J. F. Goen, a cousin.
He was brought to Wise County, Texas in 1883 by J. F. Goen
who shortly began making plans to move north to Indian Territory.
“Pres” decided that he would “stay with Texas” and
prepared to head west declaring that he “thought he could make
it on his own the rest of the way.”
One hundred eighty miles later he wound up on the newly created
Pitchfork Ranch, and the young teenager was hired because
he was “handy with a rope.” He appeared in the 1900 census of
Dickens County, Texas as a “boarder” with A. R. Dillard in
Enumeration District 54. He may also have been enumerated a
second time in the 1900 census in adjoining King County,
Enumeration District 21 as “J. P. Goen, born in Texas in July
1874.”
Both counties had been created in 1876 by the Texas
legislature who named them for William P. King and J. Dickens,
Texas heroes who fell at the Alamo. The legislature also
specified that a new county must have a minimum of 75
citizens before a county government could be organized.
Neither county could muster that many voters, so each borrowed
from the other to get enough signatures on the petitions.
Many early West Texas men had “citizenship” in several
counties.
“Pres” Goen became a pioneer West Texas ranch owner when
he organized the Goen Ranch in Dickens County. He was
married May 10, 1903 to Ora Aseniath Blackwell, according to
King County Marriage Book 1. Ora Aseniath Blackwell was
born in Bosque County, Texas in 1875.
“Pres” Goen was the patentee to 72 acres of land located “twelve
miles west of the county seat” January 14, 1902, according to
King County Deed Book 2. He purchased land from the
Southern Pacific and other railroads December 3, 1903 for
$1,476.45, according to King County Deed Book 2. The land
was located 16.5 miles southwest of the county seat which had
not been named at that time. The town subsequently became
Guthrie, Texas.
“Pres” Goen received a patent from the State of Texas May 3,
1909 to an additional 652.2 acres. He and Ora Aseniath
Blackwell Goen gave a warranty deed to the patented land to W.
C. Presley March 18, 1911 for $4,000. Apparently James
Presley “Pres” Goen regained title to the land because on
November 11, 1912 he resold the patent to G. B. Martin for
$8,202.50, according to King County Deed Book 3.
“Pres” Goen bought a section of land on White River in 1909
and another in 1910. In that year he moved to his new home
north of Dickens, Texas and the Goen family ranched there for
the next 57 years.
In 1911 he paid an inflated price of $3.12 an acre for more
ranchland. When he got an opportunity to sell that land for
$5.50 an acre the following year, he sold it. His passion for
grassland had not overridden his good judgement.
In 1912, he bought six tracts of land from Erie P. Swenson and
Swen A. Swenson of Manhattan, New York. They were the
owners of the sprawling Swenson Ranch which spread into
several West Texas counties. He paid $6.37 per acre for the
1,621 acres. He received additional land from Matador Land &
Cattle Company in 1917, greatly increasing his holdings.
In 1939, “Pres” Goen began passing land along to his son. On
June 13, 1939 he deeded to 4,926.35 acres to Guy Goen.
His son, Guy Goen, in an interview with Gerry Burton of the
“Lubbock Avalanche-Journal” in May 1986 stated, “Pres
Goen was hired by the Pitchfork at age 14 because he was
the best roper on the place. He wound up manager of the
massive ranch. “Back then there were no fences on the
Pitchfork which had been put together a couple of years earlier
in 1882. The wagons pulled out the first of April and stayed
out until Christmas. Wherever the wagons stopped was home
for the cowboys working cattle.”
“There was a chuck wagon with the bedrolls and chuck. And
there was the hoodlum wagon that carried a barrel of water and
kept the chuck wagon supplied with firewood,” he said. In
winter, cattle drifted south, so in the spring “seven or eight
outfits” sent their wagons and cowboys to round them up, brand
them and head them back north. Each outfit cut out its own
cattle and branded the calves following the cows.
The Pitchfork let his father run his own cattle on the range,
Goen said, and when he realized that he had 1,000 cattle on the
ranch, he decided it was time to “quit imposing on the
Pitchfork.” He sold his cattle, got his own range and became
one of the largest landowners in the country.
“Pres” Goen wrote his will June 30, 1951. In it were named
his wife, Ora Aseniath Blackwell Goen and his son, Guy
Goen, executors, and his grandsons, Guy Hugh Goen and John
Preston Goen.
James Presley “Pres” Goen died June 12, 1952 at age 81 at his
residence two miles north of Spur, Texas, and he was buried in
Spur Cemetery.
Ora Aseniath Blackwell Goen gave a warranty deed to her son,
Guy Goen to 19 additional tracts of land in Dickens County,
according to Dickens County Deed Book 113, page 379. The
Goen Ranch was passed intact to the son.
Guy Goen, son of James Presley “Pres” Goen and Ora Aseniath
Blackwell Goen, was born May 20, 1906, according to Dickens
County Birth Book 1. Following graduation from Texas Technological
College at the bottom of the depression, he began to
build his own ranch, buying up land which his father had sold to
neighbors earlier. He was married December 29, 1931 in
Crosbyton, Texas to Verna Beechly.
Like his father, he also applied a half century of hard work and
savvy and also became eminently successful. In later years he
turned most of the cow-punchin’ over to others and began to devote
time to other interests.
He was an elder in the Church of Christ, active in Christian education
in West Texas, a great promoter of 4-H clubwork and a
ranch cook par excellence.
Guy Goen became famous in West Texas for his ranch cooking.
He lived in Spur and drove out to the ranch to cook for
the ranch hands when a large group gathered.
“I had a chuck box on my pickup,” he related. “I’d hoist it on,
go to the ranch. They’d do the work, and I’d cook, have dinner
ready for them. Then, I would unhoist it and hang it in the barn.
I cooked steak, gravy, red beans and cobbler. I’ve got six
dutch ovens, once cooked 18 gallons of peach cobbler, three
fillings in each.” Peach cobbler was his favorite, but ‘hen butter’
ran close as a desert. ‘You take syrup, molasses and sugar, mix
and boil it a while.
You add about 15 eggs and boil it again and then let it cool
down. It’s got another name, but the punchers at the Pitchfork
named it ‘hen butter.’
It wasn’t long until he was hoisting the chuckbox more and
more to cook barbecue for 4-H and other groups. He started
barbecuing for Lubbock Christian College events in 1963 when
he became a member of the board of directors. And he always
made the White River children’s camp during summers to cook
up a barbecue for each of the four sessions.
In 1985, LCC agriculture students built him a barbecue
trailer that looks like a butane tank with a firebox on one end
and a smokestack on the other. Goen first thought it was a
train the ag boys had built for him to drive around the campus.
‘It was the best deal I ever got into. I put 34 briskets on it and
cooked them 26 hours.'”
Thus “Pres” Goen and Guy Goen between them invested 108
years in developing West Texas and its young people. Guy
Goen died April 2, 1991 and was buried in Spur Memorial
Cemetery.
GOWEN RESEARCH FOUNDATION NEWSLETTER
Volume 4, No. 7 March 1993
1) James Presley “Pres” Goen went to Texas
“Pres” Goen Started with 1 Dollar and 1 Pony
James Presley “Pres” Goen began as a 14-year-old orphan
with “one dollar and one pony” and built one of the most
successful ranching operations in West Texas. He was born in
Johnson County, Texas September 6, 1870 of parents
unknown, according to Dickens County, Texas Death Book 7.
“Preston Goen, age 9” was enumerated in the 1880 census of
Johnson County in the household of J. F. Goen, a cousin.
He was brought to Wise County, Texas in 1883 by J. F. Goen
who shortly began making plans to move north to Indian Territory.
“Pres” decided that he would “stay with Texas” and
prepared to head west declaring that he “thought he could make
it on his own the rest of the way.”
One hundred eighty miles later he wound up on the newly created
Pitchfork Ranch, and the young teenager was hired because
he was “handy with a rope.” He appeared in the 1900 census of
Dickens County, Texas as a “boarder” with A. R. Dillard in
Enumeration District 54. He may also have been enumerated a
second time in the 1900 census in adjoining King County,
Enumeration District 21 as “J. P. Goen, born in Texas in July
1874.”
Both counties had been created in 1876 by the Texas
legislature who named them for William P. King and J. Dickens,
Texas heroes who fell at the Alamo. The legislature also
specified that a new county must have a minimum of 75
citizens before a county government could be organized.
Neither county could muster that many voters, so each borrowed
from the other to get enough signatures on the petitions.
Many early West Texas men had “citizenship” in several
counties.
“Pres” Goen became a pioneer West Texas ranch owner when
he organized the Goen Ranch in Dickens County. He was
married May 10, 1903 to Ora Aseniath Blackwell, according to
King County Marriage Book 1. Ora Aseniath Blackwell was
born in Bosque County, Texas in 1875.
“Pres” Goen was the patentee to 72 acres of land located “twelve
miles west of the county seat” January 14, 1902, according to
King County Deed Book 2. He purchased land from the
Southern Pacific and other railroads December 3, 1903 for
$1,476.45, according to King County Deed Book 2. The land
was located 16.5 miles southwest of the county seat which had
not been named at that time. The town subsequently became
Guthrie, Texas.
“Pres” Goen received a patent from the State of Texas May 3,
1909 to an additional 652.2 acres. He and Ora Aseniath
Blackwell Goen gave a warranty deed to the patented land to W.
C. Presley March 18, 1911 for $4,000. Apparently James
Presley “Pres” Goen regained title to the land because on
November 11, 1912 he resold the patent to G. B. Martin for
$8,202.50, according to King County Deed Book 3.
“Pres” Goen bought a section of land on White River in 1909
and another in 1910. In that year he moved to his new home
north of Dickens, Texas and the Goen family ranched there for
the next 57 years.
In 1911 he paid an inflated price of $3.12 an acre for more
ranchland. When he got an opportunity to sell that land for
$5.50 an acre the following year, he sold it. His passion for
grassland had not overridden his good judgement.
In 1912, he bought six tracts of land from Erie P. Swenson and
Swen A. Swenson of Manhattan, New York. They were the
owners of the sprawling Swenson Ranch which spread into
several West Texas counties. He paid $6.37 per acre for the
1,621 acres. He received additional land from Matador Land &
Cattle Company in 1917, greatly increasing his holdings.
In 1939, “Pres” Goen began passing land along to his son. On
June 13, 1939 he deeded to 4,926.35 acres to Guy Goen.
His son, Guy Goen, in an interview with Gerry Burton of the
“Lubbock Avalanche-Journal” in May 1986 stated, “Pres
Goen was hired by the Pitchfork at age 14 because he was
the best roper on the place. He wound up manager of the
massive ranch. “Back then there were no fences on the
Pitchfork which had been put together a couple of years earlier
in 1882. The wagons pulled out the first of April and stayed
out until Christmas. Wherever the wagons stopped was home
for the cowboys working cattle.”
“There was a chuck wagon with the bedrolls and chuck. And
there was the hoodlum wagon that carried a barrel of water and
kept the chuck wagon supplied with firewood,” he said. In
winter, cattle drifted south, so in the spring “seven or eight
outfits” sent their wagons and cowboys to round them up, brand
them and head them back north. Each outfit cut out its own
cattle and branded the calves following the cows.
The Pitchfork let his father run his own cattle on the range,
Goen said, and when he realized that he had 1,000 cattle on the
ranch, he decided it was time to “quit imposing on the
Pitchfork.” He sold his cattle, got his own range and became
one of the largest landowners in the country.
“Pres” Goen wrote his will June 30, 1951. In it were named
his wife, Ora Aseniath Blackwell Goen and his son, Guy
Goen, executors, and his grandsons, Guy Hugh Goen and John
Preston Goen.
James Presley “Pres” Goen died June 12, 1952 at age 81 at his
residence two miles north of Spur, Texas, and he was buried in
Spur Cemetery.
Ora Aseniath Blackwell Goen gave a warranty deed to her son,
Guy Goen to 19 additional tracts of land in Dickens County,
according to Dickens County Deed Book 113, page 379. The
Goen Ranch was passed intact to the son.
Guy Goen, son of James Presley “Pres” Goen and Ora Aseniath
Blackwell Goen, was born May 20, 1906, according to Dickens
County Birth Book 1. Following graduation from Texas Technological
College at the bottom of the depression, he began to
build his own ranch, buying up land which his father had sold to
neighbors earlier. He was married December 29, 1931 in
Crosbyton, Texas to Verna Beechly.
Like his father, he also applied a half century of hard work and
savvy and also became eminently successful. In later years he
turned most of the cow-punchin’ over to others and began to devote
time to other interests.
He was an elder in the Church of Christ, active in Christian education
in West Texas, a great promoter of 4-H clubwork and a
ranch cook par excellence.
Guy Goen became famous in West Texas for his ranch cooking.
He lived in Spur and drove out to the ranch to cook for
the ranch hands when a large group gathered.
“I had a chuck box on my pickup,” he related. “I’d hoist it on,
go to the ranch. They’d do the work, and I’d cook, have dinner
ready for them. Then, I would unhoist it and hang it in the barn.
I cooked steak, gravy, red beans and cobbler. I’ve got six
dutch ovens, once cooked 18 gallons of peach cobbler, three
fillings in each.” Peach cobbler was his favorite, but ‘hen butter’
ran close as a desert. ‘You take syrup, molasses and sugar, mix
and boil it a while.
You add about 15 eggs and boil it again and then let it cool
down. It’s got another name, but the punchers at the Pitchfork
named it ‘hen butter.’
It wasn’t long until he was hoisting the chuckbox more and
more to cook barbecue for 4-H and other groups. He started
barbecuing for Lubbock Christian College events in 1963 when
he became a member of the board of directors. And he always
made the White River children’s camp during summers to cook
up a barbecue for each of the four sessions.
In 1985, LCC agriculture students built him a barbecue
trailer that looks like a butane tank with a firebox on one end
and a smokestack on the other. Goen first thought it was a
train the ag boys had built for him to drive around the campus.
‘It was the best deal I ever got into. I put 34 briskets on it and
cooked them 26 hours.'”
Thus “Pres” Goen and Guy Goen between them invested 108
years in developing West Texas and its young people. Guy
Goen died April 2, 1991 and was buried in Spur Memorial
Cemetery.
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I would bet that if you asked Myron Mixon or Aaron Franklin who The Godfather of BBQ is, without hesitation they would say Johnny Trigg.
I wonder how many unsung Godfathers or Godmothers are out there.
Melissa Cookston and Tootsie Tomanetz from Snow's BBQ come to mind.
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Karen Putnam! She was one of the first ladies on the KCBS circuit and won several world titles with Team KC. Her team, "Flower of the Flames" still carries on her name and she was inducted to the BBQ Hall of Fame just this month. Great lady, great cook and a great teacher!
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Henry Perry
Perry was born in*Shelby County, Tennessee*near*Memphis. He worked on*steamboat*restaurants on the*Mississippi River*and*Missouri River*before moving to*Kansas City, Missouri*in 1907. In 1908, he began serving*smoked*meats to workers in the*Garment District*in*Downtown Kansas City*from an alley stand.[2]
He then moved his stand, "Perry's Barbecue", to 17th and Lydia in the*inner city*neighborhood of*18th Street and Vine. He had a sign in his restaurant that said "my business is to serve you, not to entertain you," and it was known for its far-reaching BBQ smells. He was known for his generosity, and would often give food to people for free.[1]
He later moved a few blocks away within the neighborhood of 19th and Highland, where he operated out of an old*trolley*barn throughout the 1920s and 1930s when the neighborhood became famed for its*Kansas City Jazz*during the*Tom Pendergast*era.
Customers paid 25 cents for hot meat smoked over*oak*and*hickory*and wrapped in*newsprint. Perry's sauce was described as "harsh, peppery" (rather than sweet). Perry's menu included such barbecue standards of the day as*beef*and wild game such as*possum,*woodchuck, and*raccoon.[1]
On March 22, 1940, at 5:55 A.M., Perry died in Kansas City due to pneumonia and complications from an infection.
After his death, Charlie Bryant took over the business; he, in turn, sold it to his brother*Arthur, who made the sauce a little sweeter when he relocated the restaurant,*Arthur Bryant's, to 1727 Brooklyn in the same neighborhood. Also, Arthur Pinkard, who had worked for Perry, helped George Gates found*Gates Bar-B-Q.
Because of Perry's long-lasting influence on the barbecue community in Kansas City, he became known as the "Father of Kansas City Barbecue," and in 2014, he was inducted into the*American Royal*Barbecue Hall of Fame.[3]
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Perry was born in*Shelby County, Tennessee*near*Memphis. He worked on*steamboat*restaurants on the*Mississippi River*and*Missouri River*before moving to*Kansas City, Missouri*in 1907. In 1908, he began serving*smoked*meats to workers in the*Garment District*in*Downtown Kansas City*from an alley stand.[2]
He then moved his stand, "Perry's Barbecue", to 17th and Lydia in the*inner city*neighborhood of*18th Street and Vine. He had a sign in his restaurant that said "my business is to serve you, not to entertain you," and it was known for its far-reaching BBQ smells. He was known for his generosity, and would often give food to people for free.[1]
He later moved a few blocks away within the neighborhood of 19th and Highland, where he operated out of an old*trolley*barn throughout the 1920s and 1930s when the neighborhood became famed for its*Kansas City Jazz*during the*Tom Pendergast*era.
Customers paid 25 cents for hot meat smoked over*oak*and*hickory*and wrapped in*newsprint. Perry's sauce was described as "harsh, peppery" (rather than sweet). Perry's menu included such barbecue standards of the day as*beef*and wild game such as*possum,*woodchuck, and*raccoon.[1]
On March 22, 1940, at 5:55 A.M., Perry died in Kansas City due to pneumonia and complications from an infection.
After his death, Charlie Bryant took over the business; he, in turn, sold it to his brother*Arthur, who made the sauce a little sweeter when he relocated the restaurant,*Arthur Bryant's, to 1727 Brooklyn in the same neighborhood. Also, Arthur Pinkard, who had worked for Perry, helped George Gates found*Gates Bar-B-Q.
Because of Perry's long-lasting influence on the barbecue community in Kansas City, he became known as the "Father of Kansas City Barbecue," and in 2014, he was inducted into the*American Royal*Barbecue Hall of Fame.[3]
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By far not the first but the modern day explosion of interest in bbq we have seen over the past 10 plus years is 100% because of Aaron Franklin. His restaurant reputation and YouTube videos inspired so many to pick up the craft. Even those who were cooking before Aaron Franklin came on the scene were able to dramatically up their game because of him.
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somebody shut me the fark up.
Never been to his restaurant or seen any of his videos or books, but I have heard of him, so he has that going for him.
If he keeps it up, one day maybe he will be well known for his craft.
Never been to his restaurant or seen any of his videos or books, but I have heard of him, so he has that going for him.
If he keeps it up, one day maybe he will be well known for his craft.
I can keep this up all day!
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