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Scrubbers for many restaurateurs could exceed $100,000 in cost which would cause the demise of most operators.

Many coffee roasters in residential neighborhoods, and even some in commercial or industrial parks depending on the state, are required to have afterburners to burn off the smoke and fumes. The cost is inline with what it would take to install them on smokers, which according to the following article is 15-30K and not the 100K mentioned in the other article. For coffee roasters, this is just part of the cost of doing business and hasn't killed the industry.

http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/2015/04/01/neighbors-threaten-lawsuit-over-bbq-smoke/70811638/
 
Agree

I think what people need to do that buy a house in the city is read over their home owners association contract very closely before buying . that is why I choose to live in the sticks , I shoot my guns , wiz outside , have bonfires , smoke my BBQ and watch my deer come through every night .

That's a big ten four!
 
Many coffee roasters in residential neighborhoods, and even some in commercial or industrial parks depending on the state, are required to have afterburners to burn off the smoke and fumes. The cost is inline with what it would take to install them on smokers, which according to the following article is 15-30K and not the 100K mentioned in the other article. For coffee roasters, this is just part of the cost of doing business and hasn't killed the industry.

http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/2015/04/01/neighbors-threaten-lawsuit-over-bbq-smoke/70811638/



As a semi-serious coffee drinker, this is very interesting. Thanks for posting.
 
"Of course, these regulations are par for the course for a liberal city. Liberals claim to hate big business and love small businesses, but then they love to place so many regulations on the little guy that the environment becomes toxic to entry level entrepreneurs. The ultimate consequence of these policies is that large corporations and governments are the only entities permitted to operate."
http://www.iamatexan.com/2015/07/25/321austin-city-council-votes-to-ban-bbq-restaurants/#

Would you please stop with the insulting generalizations.
Your statement about liberals is a flat out lie.

If you want to talk about the specifics here, let's do it.
But this has nothing to do with some made up liberal/conservative battle nor is this the place for such a battle.

If there is a discussion to be had here, it is a discussion on what steps a BBQ owner can take to peacefully coexist with a neighborhood and what physical steps can be taken to reduce smoke/odor

So we can now post false blanket insulting statements as long as we have a source for said statement? That's ridiculous.

I don't care if he said it or just repeating it.
But when did it become acceptable to make posts that insult/defame/antagonize 50% of the membership.

If I didn't see the forum heading, I'd swear that in the last year this place was renamed to BBQ Brethern and Tea Party?

Your own rules say this antagonistic crap will be deleted.
Leaving it up is offensive and insulting and completely irrelevant to barbeque.

ok.. heres the deal.. ive read the entire thread.. again.. Im done babysitting. I woke up this morning to someone who crapped in my cheerios overnight because we did not moderate a post that went up at 1:02 AM(an hour after i shut down). That person is no longer a member here. my tolerance is getting real low.

The only reported post in this thread since yesterday was PMADS post bitching out a moderator. One would think that if 50% of our membership got insulted by something in there, someone else would have chimed in. But only one person complained. One.. uno..1.. not 50%, or not even .1% of the 50%

you folks need to learn to have adult conversations without throwing shots and/or whining when you get one.

PmAD..Show me where YOU were personally insulted and i will take action..but heres some irony.... You directly called MY forum Tea Party, Well, i find that insulting and offensive, but i didnt remove it, because its YOUR opinion. So when someone says 'people suck' because someone did something crappy..should we expect everyone to be offended. ???

The 'liberal' comment was not a lie.. it was one individuals generalization/opinion and it was quoted from an article elsewhere.. it was NOT directed at you or anyone person, yet you seem to take these generalizations personally.

looking at the comments objectively, all i see is opinions and armpits(both stink).. stop taking it personally and STOP getting in the mods faces. Mod decisions are final..period.. if there was something that needed to be scrubbed, it would have been, but what ive seen is relevant to the OP. (excluding the 'liberal claim to blah blah blah" drivel, which BTW, was a quote from the article, not a the OP's own words...)

Its highly suggested anyone who can not handle this topic intelligently without throwing shots or getting pissed at point/counterpoint just leave the thread.

pmad said it best..

pmad said:
If there is a discussion to be had here, it is a discussion on what steps a BBQ owner can take to peacefully coexist with a neighborhood and what physical steps can be taken to reduce smoke/odor
^^^^
Thats a perfect approach.. stick to it.
 
Wow. I guess the city council has seen the light. It would not make sense to me to have stepped on these small entrepreneurs. Then again, what the hell do I know. Tough enough having to carry the weight of a business on your shoulders let alone another burden and tax. Mr. Franklin and others have lit a fire under the Austin BBQ scene a placing Austin in the national spotlight. Good for him and nothing but great success going forward.
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/story/29047250/austin-city-council-drops-barbecue-smoke-ordinance
 
Not sure about the local EPA but it's good they are working on it. The small BBQ spots have to breathing a sigh of relief for now.
 
Not sure about the local EPA but it's good they are working on it. The small BBQ spots have to breathing a sigh of relief for now.

I would like to see the Austin BBQ entrepreneurs form a coalition and have big guns on retainer. Something tells me a snake is lying in wake.
 
I would like to see the Austin BBQ entrepreneurs form a coalition and have big guns on retainer. Something tells me a snake is lying in wake.

They def should....I wonder if the city is crabby about people using their fireplaces too lol
 
i just made a batch of tomato chutney and soy chorizo for lunch tomorrow. my drink of choice will be a latte. I will be protesting the squirrels pooping in my tree. THEY HAVE TO BE STOPPED!

oh did you hear? as of today boy scouts of america will allow gay adult leaders. this should be fun

i would HATE to be a progressive liberal and one day wake up and realize what a RIDICULOUS MORON i have been, then contemplate suicide. i would HATE that.

like a petulant child or teenage girl rebelling against DADDY, authority or COMMON SENSE I will some day..... probably in the far future because i have been so brainwashed by hollywood, media, beyond de-brainwashing, GAIN COMMON SENSE. but it will be too late.

enjoy your adventure progressives. no pity here
 
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i just made a batch of tomato chutney and soy chorizo and a latte for lunch tomorrow to protest the squirrels ****ting in my tree.

oh did you hear? as of today boy scouts of america will allow gay adult leaders. that should be fun

What the heck? Random post
 
So we can now post false blanket insulting statements as long as we have a source for said statement? That's ridiculous.

I don't care if he said it or just repeating it.
But when did it become acceptable to make posts that insult/defame/antagonize 50% of the membership.

If I didn't see the forum heading, I'd swear that in the last year this place was renamed to BBQ Brethern and Tea Party?

Your own rules say this antagonistic crap will be deleted.
Leaving it up is offensive and insulting and completely irrelevant to barbeque.

dont get your panties in a bunch, Nancy.

isnt there a gay pride parade you should be attending with your rainbow flag and assless pants in front of children?

or some peta protest to cut water off farmers in California to protect some meaningless little fish we cant eat? umm sorry i meant sea kittens.
 
So we can now post false blanket insulting statements as long as we have a source for said statement? That's ridiculous.

I don't care if he said it or just repeating it.
But when did it become acceptable to make posts that insult/defame/antagonize 50% of the membership.

If I didn't see the forum heading, I'd swear that in the last year this place was renamed to BBQ Brethern and Tea Party?

Your own rules say this antagonistic crap will be deleted.
Leaving it up is offensive and insulting and completely irrelevant to barbeque.

why do liberals always want peoples opinions deleted on forums? do you hate freedom of speech? you expect anyone who does not agree with your slanted, insane liberal views to be silenced. and sadly these days you lunatics are getting your way.

During this whole thread you sound like a fairy.

You are member of a forum with testosterone filled men who like to cook raw meat with fire like cavemen. you do not belong here, Nancy.

you have proven to be a delicate little flower, like all progressives are. you are a waste of carbon based life form.

i imagine sensitive little dudes like you fantasize about prancing around a field of flowers wearing hot pants listening to Abba on your little bose headphones.

you are pathetic, Loser.
 
Because instead of discussing bbq, a select few are using this topic to bash liberals. (Many have been deleted)

This was one forum that I could count on to be free of the political bull that ruins many a forum.
In the last year, that has started to change.

But this thread has been the most blatant.
This forum has rules about antagonistic posting that serves no purpose.
Instead of enforcing those rules, the antagonistic posts are being defended rather than deleted.

Why do we need that crap here?
Let's talk about BBQ without intentionally insulting and antagonizing each other.


not surprised you gloated about many posts being deleted for supposedly "bashing" liberals.

im more surprised they were deleted for saying nothing wrong.

i consider you white progressive liberal males human garbage.

Nancy
 
ATTN: Admin

TO THINK this douchebag pmad lunatic liberal asked you to delete posts on his behalf, AND YOU DID, according to the lunatic liberal AND he boasts about it, makes me angry. Appease the loonies all you want.

Nothing is going to change the fact that people are finally, FINALLY getting sick and tired of their ludicrous ridiculousness and immaturity.

that makes me feel good about this country again.
 
Dude.... You should stop now. Seriously. The mods and owner of the site have the ban hammer out and are hunting for trolls. You're stepping in their crosshairs. If you like it here you should delete/modify your posts.
 
Dude.... You should stop now. Seriously. The mods and owner of the site have the ban hammer out and are hunting for trolls. You're stepping in their crosshairs. If you like it here you should delete/modify your posts.

Wow is he over the top or what..... Think he'll make Farker?
 
why do liberals always want peoples opinions deleted on forums? do you hate freedom of speech? you expect anyone who does not agree with your slanted, insane liberal views to be silenced. and sadly these days you lunatics are getting your way.

During this whole thread you sound like a fairy.

You are member of a forum with testosterone filled men who like to cook raw meat with fire like cavemen. you do not belong here, Nancy.

you have proven to be a delicate little flower, like all progressives are. you are a waste of carbon based life form.

i imagine sensitive little dudes like you fantasize about prancing around a field of flowers wearing hot pants listening to Abba on your little bose headphones.

you are pathetic, Loser.

No son as a conservative myself you are the loser and way over the top I'm ashamed as a conservative .:tsk: You won't last long so I'll say adios now.
 
ATTN: Admin

TO THINK this douchebag pmad lunatic liberal asked you to delete posts on his behalf, AND YOU DID, according to the lunatic liberal AND he boasts about it, makes me angry. Appease the loonies all you want.

Nothing is going to change the fact that people are finally, FINALLY getting sick and tired of their ludicrous ridiculousness and immaturity.

that makes me feel good about this country again.

Are you stoned or what son ? because your comments have absolutely no place here. :tsk:
 
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