30 Hour Dry Brined (Frozen) Turkey - In Progress

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This is for those folks that were wondering...

“I only have a day and a half, can I dry brine a frozen turkey?”

Even if you weren’t wondering, maybe now you are.

I picked up an all natural non-enhanced turkey (up to 6% retained water is ok), but it is frozen solid (a couple of more weeks before the fresh turkeys show up here)

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So I decided to do a dry brine tutorial using a frozen bird, because sometimes, life just gets in the way.

A frozen turkey has a protective outside layer of ice glazed on it. This glaze needs to come off so the dry brine can do its magic.

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I simply run the turkey under hot water until all the exterior glaze is melted off, and then I dried the exterior with paper towels.

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It is now ready for the application of Harvest Brine

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Harvest Brine is a product that contains sea salt, apples, maple, sage and black pepper. The sea salt not only works to Brine the turkey, but it does a great job of helping to defrost the turkey (that’s why they put salt down in the winter, to help melt the ice)

The proper application rate is 1 teaspoon per pound, but you can use 1.5 times that amount and still be okay.

This is a 11.92 lb turkey., so that would be 12 teaspoons.
My handy dandy conversion app tells me that 12 teaspoons = 4 tablespoons

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This is what 4 tablespoons of Harvest Brine looks like

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It is important to try to make sure you actually get 4 tablespoons of brine on the turkey. I normally lose about a tablespoon when applying to the bird, so I make sure to add that amount back in.

This is what is looks like with 4 tablespoons of brine applied to the turkey

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Once Brine is on, the next step is to wrap tightly with plastic wrap.
Please don’t use garbage bags, zip lock bags, brine bags, etc. also don’t use pans with a cover.
The wrap needs to cling tightly to the turkey and these other methods don’t wrap the bird tight enough.

In case you are wondering why I recommend wrapping tightly (some internet resources actually recommend leaving unwrapped while dry brining, please do NOT do this)...
The salt pulls the moisture from the turkey, the moisture then mixes with the salt and dissolves it. You now have a briny mixture sitting on the surface of the turkey. The plastic wrap helps to keep this moisture against the skin of the turkey, where it gets pulled back into the meat through a process called diffusion. If the meat is not wrapped tightly, the moisture on the exterior rolls off the meat and there is less moisture (Brine) to get pulled back into the meat, potentially leaving you worse off than if you didn’t Brine at all.

Wrapped and ready for the fridge.

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I put the wrapped turkey on a shallow pan to catch any liquid that may seep off and into the fridge for a 30 hour nap (works out to ~2.5 hours per pound)

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I put this in at 7:30am this morning, it will come out at 11:30am tomorrow, get unwrapped and air dry for a couple of hours before it hits the smoke around 1:30 tomorrow.

I will update this thread as I go.
 
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So I assume you don't worry about putting any under the surface of the skin, just everything right on top, correct? How do you plan to cook it once finished?

Normally I use my weber kettle rotisserie but I have been pondering using my Shirley with a hot fire this year.
 
So I assume you don't worry about putting any under the surface of the skin, just everything right on top, correct? How do you plan to cool it once finished?

Normally I use my weber kettle rotisserie but I have been pondering using my Shirley with a hot fire this year.



It does a better job of brining if I can get it under the skin, and when using a fresh turkey I do get some under there.
Obviously this is not possible with a frozen bird. However it will still do its thing, just a tad slower.

I plan to cook it in my baby WSM running at 275-300. I will crank it up towards the end.
 
It does a better job of brining if I can get it under the skin, and when using a fresh turkey I do get some under there.
Obviously this is not possible with a frozen bird. However it will still do its thing, just a tad slower.


Do you use the same amount and the same time if you put it under the skin? (Wanna make sure I get our throwdown correct when I compare our brines :boxing:)
 
Do you use the same amount and the same time if you put it under the skin? (Wanna make sure I get our throwdown correct when I compare our brines :boxing:)



I use roughly the same amount, but it will brine faster if not frozen. You could get by with 1.5 hours a pound on fresh bird, but longer is still better.
I am working with a really tight window on this one.
My preference is minimum 3 hours per pound frozen and 2 hours per pound fresh.

Dry brining does take longer than a wet brine as there is an extra step (salt has to pull moisture out of meat to create brine solution)
 
Can't wait to see the finished bird. I've never tried dry brining a frozen turkey, but it's nice to know I can if needed.
 
Update # 1:

The turkey was frozen solid when it went in the fridge at 7:30am, by 8:30pm, I was able to insert a thermapen all the way to the bone with little effort. How’s that for a quick thaw?

In a couple of hours I will remove the plastic wrap and let it begin to air dry before it hits the smoker alter today.
 
Update # 2:
Okay kids, it is 10:00am here.

That’s 26.5 hours after it started brining and about 2.5 hours before it hits the smoke.

Time to unwrap and air dry.

First look..no moisture in bottom of pan. This is a good thing. That means we have managed to contain all the moisture inside the plastic wrap (and on the surface of the turkey).

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Let’s unwrap.

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What you see on the turkey is the residue left behind from the brine. Basically the solids that did not dissolve in the surface brine (Apple, Maple, Sage).

I don’t do a post rinse on the dry brine, but I do want to air dry the skin before I smoke the bird, so it is best take a paper towel and spread the remaining paste across the bird evenly. This removes any remaining surface moisture as well and gives us a turkey almost ready to go back in the fridge and air dry.

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Last task before it goes back in the fridge is to remove the innards and open it up so we get good air flow (during air dry and cook)

I also cut any loose skin that is inhibiting airflow through the turkey.

You can see all that was removed here.

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Back into the fridge to dry.

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I’m hitting the shower and then will get the smoker ready to go.
 
Update #3 - 12:30pm PST

29 hours after dry brine started on a frozen turkey, the turkey went into the smoker.

I couldn’t find my vertical roasting rack, so I appropriated the bundt cake form from the wife (shhhhh)

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Let’s do something with those wing tips.

I poke a small hole right at the top of the leg and insert the wing tips.

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A little unsalted butter in the cleavage as well as rubbed all over the outside of the breasts. (It’s my turkey, we’ve both agreed this is best)

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And into the baby WSM (lit an hour previously with charcoal and cherry wood, complete with water pan full of water)
 
Update #4 - 2:30pm PST

2 hours in and its time to check the bird, make sure all is well (and of course take a photo)
The smoker is at 253 and the IT is 133F in the breast.

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Wing joints are looking a little dark. So I’ll put a touch of foil over them along with a couple of other dark spots

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Lid back on and back to smoking.
 
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