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Picked this bad boy up on 7/3 - still haven't fired her up yet. I got her used but she's in mint condition, so pumped.

This is my first offset, first stick burner. Graduated from a Backwoods party 1.0 to the Lang 84 - only live once.

Can any fellow brethren offer some Lang advice, or offet stick burner advice in general that might help my learning curve? Friday I'm lighting her up. Got a 21lb prime packer going on, few spares, couple chickens....
 
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I just picked up a Lang 36 Deluxe used.

Lang recommends steam cleaning periodically by bringing the cooker up to 300 and then spraying the cook chamber with a garden hose. Then lettting the temp come back up and doing it again. Once I did that, gave it a quick scrape and threw on some food.

The 1/4 steel is thick and takes a while to heat up...once hot though it holds heat well and takes a while to cool down.

Start with a larger fire than you think...keep the firebox door open, the intake and exhaust dampers fully open to get the fire good and hot. May take 30-45 minutes to get it good and hot.

Once you are cooking it only takes a split or 2 every 45 min to maintain.

Good luck and have fun. Don't forget to post some pics of the food!
 
Hope you have a big family, or some catering in your future. That is a giant rig. I had a Lang 36. Above pretty much covered it. Building and managing fires is the only real way to figure it out. Fire it up, and have fun.
 
If you haven't yet, check out Lang's videos on YouTube. They cover everything you need to know about firing up and cleaning their smokers.

I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but Ben Lang knows what he's talking about.
 
Congrats on the new cooker. Looks like it's in great shape.

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I just picked up a Lang 36 Deluxe used.

Lang recommends steam cleaning periodically by bringing the cooker up to 300 and then spraying the cook chamber with a garden hose. Then lettting the temp come back up and doing it again. Once I did that, gave it a quick scrape and threw on some food.

The 1/4 steel is thick and takes a while to heat up...once hot though it holds heat well and takes a while to cool down.

Start with a larger fire than you think...keep the firebox door open, the intake and exhaust dampers fully open to get the fire good and hot. May take 30-45 minutes to get it good and hot.

Once you are cooking it only takes a split or 2 every 45 min to maintain.

Good luck and have fun. Don't forget to post some pics of the food!
Thanks for all the congrats and tips - good stuff.

Question on temp control. In the past I've run my cooker at about 250, If I target that initially on the Lang, how open will I need to leave my dampers? I know I'll have to play around with it, but should I expect to leave them fully open, halfway, etc? Any thoughts from those with experience?
 
The 84 will run different than my 36 obviously. In my experience so far I've run the exhaust wide open and controlled temp by the size of the fire. My first day before I put food on I played with it a bit. Added 2 sticks...saw how much the temp spiked. Added one larger split. Then two smaller splits. Just to see. Generally I add 2 smaller splits and the temp sits at 275. Once it begins to drop I add 2 more. Pops up then settles back. Intake wide open.

If I put too much on and it pops up too high I close the intakes 1/4 at a time. Generally it drops down a bit. Remember to allow time for the changes to take effect before you make more or drastic changes.

Let the pit run where it's happy.
 
Congratulations, sweet looking cooker. Check out if you haven't already the videos on Ben Lang's website. Don't be afraid of airflow, airflow is your friend and the key to clean smoke, and don't chase temps let her run where she likes to run and that may vary with outside temps, wind and humidity.
 
If you haven't yet, check out Lang's videos on YouTube. They cover everything you need to know about firing up and cleaning their smokers.

I'm sure there are other ways to do it, but Ben Lang knows what he's talking about.

Ditto. I've watched those videos as well and he has great tips for his cookers that also apply to other stick burners as well. Very good info from Ben Lang.
 
Congratulation on the new old smoker.I find the best way for me to control temps and have thin blue smoke is to use the size of the fire to control temps. By size of fire I mean each split burning from end to end vigorously.In doing it this way I seldom touch my pin wheels and find it is easy to maintain TBS. I will add 1 to 4 splits when my temps 5 to 10 degrees.Another benefit of this way is I don't worry about a coal bed,the fire will always have a coal bed as long as you keep adding split when the temps drop. Build a fire and play with it some ,you'll find what works best for you.There is many ways to operate a smoker.
 
My Lang 48 def has a learning curve I am still climbing. I find that it likes to sit at anywhere from 225-250 on the bottom grate and 275-300 on the top grate. Depending on coal base and size of fire will influence how close the temps will be. I've also found that once saturated with heat you will have to change your fire management technique. I'm still working on that to maintain temps between the two grates.


Pre-heat your splits on the firebox to get the cleanest burn is a must IMO.

Fire too hot: two options, open the door and open the smoke chamber to clear some heat while the spike passes OR close down the intake. If you close th eintake your temps will spike for a minute or two before beginning to drop so don't panic.
 
Agree with above. Ben Lang's videos taught me how to run my Lang when I used to own one. As he says, you want to initially make almost too big a fire so that you're extra hot, 300+ degrees, and then drop into your cook zone once the mass of cold meat gets added. To quote him, once your Lang is hot, "somebody's home" to cook with!
 
Thanks for all the congrats and tips - good stuff.

Question on temp control. In the past I've run my cooker at about 250, If I target that initially on the Lang, how open will I need to leave my dampers? I know I'll have to play around with it, but should I expect to leave them fully open, halfway, etc? Any thoughts from those with experience?

Need or want?

To run between 200 and 300 give or take, I start the fire with all four dampers wide open, but then when it settles I MAY partially close the two closest to the smoke chamber up to say 80% closed. closing them down will reduce the fanning of the flames and also reduce the heat leaving the chimney. You will burn less wood but whether your temps edge hotter or cooler will depend on other factors. Adjusting the vents will impact your end to end, and top to bottom spreads as well as fuel consumption more directly than temperature. You don't want to try to control the temp by starving it for air. That is a charcoal technique.

My exhaust is always wide open.

To start, you not only need to bring all that steel up to temp, but you also need to build up a coal bed. You can shorten the process by starting with a chimney full of charcoal and then add a few splits on top, or start with more wood and a weed burner.

The key to a nice even stable cook with a stick burner is to maintain a coal bed. That may mean adding wood well before you see the temp drop. That is OK. Adding a stick to a bed of coals also means it will ignite faster and cleaner and not risk "bad smoke". I find it will take a lot of wood to get started and build the bed, but much less to maintain it. Perhaps 4-6 splits to get going and then maybe as little as one per hour after that (30-60 minutes per split) so a short cook for ribs may see as much as half the fuel used at startup. Except I usually build up the fire at the end with a big wood load. I like to get the temp to 450-550 after the meat is off to get the grease to smoke off and then I do the steam clean once the smoke becomes thin again. Anything left after that usually scrapes off easily.

When I add a split I often leave the firebox door open for 30 seconds to a couple of minutes to help it catch and let some of the extra smoke spill out. This is also a great time to check on your meat, as when the fire box door is open, less smoke will hit your face when you open the cooking chamber doors.

Use your trailer nose jack to adjust the angle of the smoker. It impacts temps spread and if or how the drippings drain.

If the fire gets away from you, open the firebox door. Spraying the top (and sides?) of the firebox and near end of the smoker with a hose will also bring temps down fast.

If you lose the coal bed or the fire goes out, don't be afraid to use another chimney of charcoal, a weed burner or other aggressive techniques to get going again. If there is some dirty startup smoke during this process leave the firebox door open and may open the smoke chamber. 30 minutes of cold temps wont ruin or really even hurt your cook. 30 minutes of creosote and nasty smoke can ruin your cook.

Guests often like to keep opening the smoker to look at cooking meat or even try to pull off pieces. A 12 gauge with shells loaded with rock salt is an effective deterrent.

I am sure there is more, but I am having a hard time thinking, so ask more questions as they come up.
 
Congrats on the new smoker! The 84D is a workhorse.

m - Fine has you covered.
Myself I like to crib my splits to start my fire. "1/2 dozen splits"
And then I light with a weed burner. I also dont latch one of my big smoker doors while it is warming up. I just let it rest againest the latch. It seems to help even out temperatures from end to end. More so in the winter.

When you get close to the temp you want, latch the door closed.
My top rack runs about 25 degrees hotter than the bottom rack.
Once you learn your smoker you will just know when it is settled in and ready to go.
Usually when my temp drops a degree or two I add 1-2 splits.
Fire management will become second nature after awhile. The 84 is fairly easy to keep steady temps.
You got any questions just ask.
 
The sweet spot on a Lang is 275. That is where mine likes to settle and seems to be sweet spot.

I cannot agree with this. My Lang will settle at any temp I want it to. From 200 to 500, it will do what you ask it to. There is no sweet spot like there is with some drums and other air supply restricted smokers.
 
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