KCBS Says Cheating Better Than Offending TOTY

[motoeric]

Just for devils advocate, and actually on topic, if you found out that the meat you turned in didn't get judged by two judges and had made up scores for at least some period of time, how might that have affected your opinion of competition BBQ in general and the KCBS in particular?

dmp

I was an attendee, not a competitor. It was literally my first exposure (no pun intended) to competition BBQ.

Eric

 

[dmprantz]

I was an attendee, not a competitor. It was literally my first exposure (no pun intended) to competition BBQ.

Fair enough. What if you heard some teams complaining about fake scores, or what if you heard some people saying that the event would have been twice as large but teams boycotted because the rep has a history of cheating? I'm really just trying to get a gauge of reactions to the two situations, which has been the whole point.

dmp

 

[boogiesnap]

i can see both acts being equally detrimental to KCBS and competition BBQ, two black eyes.

i do not know the extent of the cheating(did the rep give his buddies 9's and other 5's)?


but what i can't understand is the difference in severity or permanence of each punishment.

i think that is all dan is saying, nothing more, nothing less.

so what is worse? being a dumbass on a cook team or a dumbass in the tent?

why is one treated differently than the other?

 

[boogiesnap]

thought i added, if the rep DID manipulate scores in favor of a particular team, well then, that is clearly far worse.

and i woulda beatin his ass senseless...naw not really. just on the net.

but i know, and others do too, they turned in some damn good food and finished middle of the pack despite of it, and if i found out my scores or other competitors were forged, one way or the the other, i'd be pretty upset.

seeing a penis or vagina doesn't really bother me too much. nor does it bother my 6 yr old. her parents have one of each, and she knows it.

now lying or cheating she also knows is completely unacceptable.

 

[Atlasman]

i do not know the extent of the cheating(did the rep give his buddies 9's and other 5's)?

10 pages and that question has yet to be answered.

 

[Hawg Father of Seoul]

Let's get one thing perfectly clear for all the people out there passing this joker's actions off as "bad judgement" or something similarly benign.

What the offender did was a crime and he is lucky he didn't get charged for it...........even worse for him because I am sure children were present.

This clown is lucky his picture isn't up at the local post office............and we are all worried about the severity of his and the head cooks ban from weekend BBQ??


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...d-exposing-fake-penis-maryland_n_1326558.html

Intent is the difference between what you posted and what happened in this case. What happened at the comp was not a criminal matter.

Just an FYI

 

[Smokin' Gnome BBQ]

10 pages and that question has yet to be answered.

thank you, I would also like to know the extent of the "score fixing"

2nd..Dmp, did you sign a "loose" contract prior to "your" offense?

I await any functional response prior to being banned from the Brethren defending my daughter and maybe yours.

Phil and others you may just want to tell me to "jump in a lake now. saves us both time.

 

[Smokin' Gnome BBQ]

thank you, I would also like to know the extent of the "score fixing"

2nd..Dmp, did you sign a "loose" contract prior to "your" offense?

I await any functional response prior to being banned from the Brethren defending my daughter and maybe yours.

Phil and others you may just want to tell me to "jump in a lake now. saves us both time.

My kid is my life , just like many others...we only get one chance to be a hero! some people want to be a martyer and a zero!

 

[Hawg Father of Seoul]

FWIW- I probably would have been pissed if my kids were there, but they have cousins and although I do not know it for a fact have probably seen a phallic (no need to excite google) by now. Even if they haven't it is still not really a big deal.

Now the funny part... if you look at the old thread. The part that people found unacceptable is the size of the appendage. Phallic envy much? Seriously, it's worse because it is large?? Puritanical nonsense.

On to the rep. Best case scenario he was negligent. To make matters worse he said he had no idea how it happened. IF THIS IS TRUE, how many times has this stuff happened under his watch. This concerns me as much as the possibility that he was cheating for a specific team.

 

[Hawg Father of Seoul]

thank you, I would also like to know the extent of the "score fixing"

2nd..Dmp, did you sign a "loose" contract prior to "your" offense?

I await any functional response prior to being banned from the Brethren defending my daughter and maybe yours.

Phil and others you may just want to tell me to "jump in a lake now. saves us both time.

I missed something, what happened to your daughter?

 

[Smokin' Gnome BBQ]

FWIW- I probably would have been pissed if my kids were there, but they have cousins and although I do not know it for a fact have probably seen a phallic (no need to excite google) by now. Even if they haven't it is still not really a big deal.

Now the funny part... if you look at the old thread. The part that people found unacceptable is the size of the appendage. Phallic envy much? Seriously, it's worse because it is large?? Puritanical nonsense.

On to the rep. Best case scenario he was negligent. To make matters worse he said he had no idea how it happened. IF THIS IS TRUE, how many times has this stuff happened under his watch. This concerns me as much as the possibility that he was cheating for a specific team.

please lets all keep it to the rep. I actually do wonder how much things change under the tent.

Size DOES NOT MATTER!!! showing children pron is showing children pron.

 

[boogiesnap]

I missed something, what happened to your daughter?

her dad was drinkin an postin prolly is all.

but seriously... i don't know. sorry if it was serious.

 

[Smokin' Gnome BBQ]

I missed something, what happened to your daughter?

nothing, but she does kids que and hangs out with a bunch of teams here in the Mid Atlantic as well as does a number of our children. If some one "got it out" in front of any of our children, there could be some talks to be had. Do you have any kids? Hey, do you have a wife? A sister or any LOVED one you wouldnt want to see a pornagraphic image?

How about Granny? she bakes awsome cookies?

 

[Smokin' Gnome BBQ]

her dad was drinkin an postin prolly is all.

but seriously... i don't know. sorry if it was serious.

Have we met? I like my beer, but that isnt the issue. BTW, does drinking make it all right to children porn?

 

[boogiesnap]

Have we met? I like my beer, but that isnt the issue. BTW, does drinking make it all right to children porn?

i don't think we've met, i'm pretty north of MABA.

 

[landarc]

Interestingly enough, display of nudity is not illegal in all states or cities. Intent to offend, provoke or incite is required. I also question whether this was in public. In terms oh how or extent of cheating? That is the same as asking how large a plastic phallus is. It doesn't matter, the person in charge of preventing cheating, and upholding the honesty of the competition for KCBS cheated, all that matters.

 

[Smokin' Gnome BBQ]

Interestingly enough, display of nudity is not illegal in all states or cities. Intent to offend, provoke or incite is required. I also question whether this was in public. In terms oh how or extent of cheating? That is the same as asking how large a plastic phallus is. It doesn't matter, the person in charge of preventing cheating, and upholding the honesty of the competition for KCBS cheated, all that matters.

OK, here we go. Im a little guy that loves my kid, period! show her a fake sexuall organ and I may see my old cellie..dont be stupid its wrong! or is it ok in your world? this tread has gone from cheating to DMP signing a contract and not controlling his trolls.

 

[BBQchef33]

Let's get one thing perfectly clear for all the people out there passing this joker's actions off as "bad judgement" or something similarly benign.

What the offender did was a crime and he is lucky he didn't get charged for it...........even worse for him because I am sure children were present.

This clown is lucky his picture isn't up at the local post office............and we are all worried about the severity of his and the head cooks ban from weekend BBQ??


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...d-exposing-fake-penis-maryland_n_1326558.html

Consider this post a warning. Keep things civil and factual. Discontinue name calling and personal attacks and ditch the crappy attitude.

 

[landarc]

First off, I was taught that the human body was made in God's image. That no part of it is indecent, only the manner in how we perceive it. Yes, thus is a huge cultural difference, that being said, I would not resort to violence, or threats. I would tell my child to look away, and I would expect obedience. Then I would go up to the person and let him know his behavior was unacceptable in s public place. That I would do under any circumstance, as I live in this culture. To be fair, I do not have kids, perhaps my response would be different if I did.

I will say, I was raised not to cheat or lie, and I have done both. There have been times when one, or both, if those actions were prudent. As I have said, at least I think I did, I believe the person who did the apron thing was wrong in what he did. But, I don't see either if these two offenses as worthy if violence. Incidentally, do you believe you do more for your daughter by going to jail for assault over being thre to explain how dumb some men will behave at times?

 

[landarc]

Iny previous post, I posited that perhaps, based upon the reactions here, that Daniel deserves a 3 year suspension, but then, certainly the official that broke his contract surely deserves at least the same.