Fat Freddy
is Blowin Smoke!
Howdy all, I am getting ready for my first KCBS in June and I have been reading everything I can on requirements and I have noticed a few things mentioned in other threads that I dont quite understand and I am trying to avoid a couple of issues I had last year when one of the events was unsanctioned.
My first question is in regards to the 3 bin wash station. I have it covered but am curious as to what is the purpose of ME having it. My cutting boards are disposable and will be thrown away after each use. My pans are foil and disposable. I have different knives for brisket and ribs(I could use it with pork also) and wont be using a knife with chicken that I know of. And even the use of tongs is limited to chicken if necessary otherwise I will use food handling gloves. Like I say I can and WILL but I guess I dont understand the purpose in having this rule for everyone. I have a friend who has a camper and he says he does not have 3 wash bins and it has never been an issue.
Along those same lines i have read posts about the need of test strips and so where would I get these and are they really going to be used?
I know in the KCBS rules fire extinguishers are required but I can only find in other brethren posts the size required(5lbs) However again talking to other competitors I have been told that there is not a size requirement. So I am not sure which it is, so I contacted the contest organizer and she told me " I am not really sure if there is a requirement, I need to look into that" So even the organizer does not know what is required, but last year I ran into an issue at this contest when it was unsanctioned and am trying to avoid the same issues. Last year in the rules for contest there was not anything mentioned about fire extinguisher but I brought one anyways and during meat inspection i got asked about my fire extinguisher, the organizer even said then she forgot to put that in the rules but hoped we would have it covered(different person in charge but same organization group this year) The one I have is a white B,C Kitchen one 3 1/2 lbs and the guy doing inspection said he is not sure if it would work but after talking to the organizer he will let it pass but he has never seen a white one.
So is my white extinguisher not right?
I have also read posts about ash cans and covered ash cans but cannot find much info or rules for them. I have a galvanized pail/bucket that is uncovered is this good enough for the ash can or should I go ahead and spend $20 for a covered one?
My last question isnt so much about KCBS but about peoples choice at comps. Last year at this event the health dept was going around checking stuff and hit mine and a few others(Iowawildhogs) right around 11am. She actually came to my canopy as we were making the chicken box. Lots of apologies by the organizer but that didnt change that it happened.
So my question is if we are not doing PC then will we have to mess with the health dept at all. I dont mind and almost welcome if they show up at a decent time but I dont want to go through that mess again.
The contest organizer seems a bit lost at times and is telling different people different answers. She doesnt seem to know what health dept will do or KCBS requirements. Earlier in the month I was actually told that because I only have a canopy and not a camper in the campground I was going to be in a different area from everyone else and if I needed power i would have to pay extra past what was already paid, electricity was supposed to be furnished. I threw enough of a fit and got the right people involved and got that straightened up. There has been a few other issues people have had with info but since those were not my issues, I wont speak for them.
If I seem long winded or dont make sense I apologize I am just trying to make my first KCBS as stress free and fun as possible. because thats what it is going to be about to me FUN and trying to learn.
My first question is in regards to the 3 bin wash station. I have it covered but am curious as to what is the purpose of ME having it. My cutting boards are disposable and will be thrown away after each use. My pans are foil and disposable. I have different knives for brisket and ribs(I could use it with pork also) and wont be using a knife with chicken that I know of. And even the use of tongs is limited to chicken if necessary otherwise I will use food handling gloves. Like I say I can and WILL but I guess I dont understand the purpose in having this rule for everyone. I have a friend who has a camper and he says he does not have 3 wash bins and it has never been an issue.
Along those same lines i have read posts about the need of test strips and so where would I get these and are they really going to be used?
I know in the KCBS rules fire extinguishers are required but I can only find in other brethren posts the size required(5lbs) However again talking to other competitors I have been told that there is not a size requirement. So I am not sure which it is, so I contacted the contest organizer and she told me " I am not really sure if there is a requirement, I need to look into that" So even the organizer does not know what is required, but last year I ran into an issue at this contest when it was unsanctioned and am trying to avoid the same issues. Last year in the rules for contest there was not anything mentioned about fire extinguisher but I brought one anyways and during meat inspection i got asked about my fire extinguisher, the organizer even said then she forgot to put that in the rules but hoped we would have it covered(different person in charge but same organization group this year) The one I have is a white B,C Kitchen one 3 1/2 lbs and the guy doing inspection said he is not sure if it would work but after talking to the organizer he will let it pass but he has never seen a white one.
So is my white extinguisher not right?
I have also read posts about ash cans and covered ash cans but cannot find much info or rules for them. I have a galvanized pail/bucket that is uncovered is this good enough for the ash can or should I go ahead and spend $20 for a covered one?
My last question isnt so much about KCBS but about peoples choice at comps. Last year at this event the health dept was going around checking stuff and hit mine and a few others(Iowawildhogs) right around 11am. She actually came to my canopy as we were making the chicken box. Lots of apologies by the organizer but that didnt change that it happened.
So my question is if we are not doing PC then will we have to mess with the health dept at all. I dont mind and almost welcome if they show up at a decent time but I dont want to go through that mess again.
The contest organizer seems a bit lost at times and is telling different people different answers. She doesnt seem to know what health dept will do or KCBS requirements. Earlier in the month I was actually told that because I only have a canopy and not a camper in the campground I was going to be in a different area from everyone else and if I needed power i would have to pay extra past what was already paid, electricity was supposed to be furnished. I threw enough of a fit and got the right people involved and got that straightened up. There has been a few other issues people have had with info but since those were not my issues, I wont speak for them.
If I seem long winded or dont make sense I apologize I am just trying to make my first KCBS as stress free and fun as possible. because thats what it is going to be about to me FUN and trying to learn.