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Sam's Club 2014

Regardless of whether Sam's continues their sponsorship, I think that KCBS needs to continue the series in some form. I like the tournament format because it lets a lot a teams get involved.

If Sam's doesn't renew, I would kick up the size of the contests a bit and distribute the contests based on the team concentrations in an area. Maybe 20 locals of 50 teams each feeding 5 regionals of the same size. Top 10 advance in both cases and you have a 50 team final.
 
MikeJ65 said:
Regardless of whether Sam's continues their sponsorship, I think that KCBS needs to continue the series in some form. I like the tournament format because it lets a lot a teams get involved.

If Sam's doesn't renew, I would kick up the size of the contests a bit and distribute the contests based on the team concentrations in an area. Maybe 20 locals of 50 teams each feeding 5 regionals of the same size. Top 10 advance in both cases and you have a 50 team final.
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I like it. It would be nice if a sponsor would step up and put a LARGE sum of money up for the final, like the world series of poker. Take the top 1000 TOY teams from the previous year and start with 20 contests. That would also give more teams a goal (to qualify) the previous year. I'm not saying it needs to be televised on ESPN or anything, but if there was $500,000 on the line, things would get real interesting.
 
MikeJ65 said:
Regardless of whether Sam's continues their sponsorship, I think that KCBS needs to continue the series in some form. I like the tournament format because it lets a lot a teams get involved.

If Sam's doesn't renew, I would kick up the size of the contests a bit and distribute the contests based on the team concentrations in an area. Maybe 20 locals of 50 teams each feeding 5 regionals of the same size. Top 10 advance in both cases and you have a 50 team final.
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An interesting idea/concept/revision, but someone would still have to pay for it.
 
Kit R said:
An interesting idea/concept/revision, but someone would still have to pay for it.
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I agree kit, but i the think the answer is television and the advertising $ that comes with it. I believe there is an opportunity to film a tournament like we are talking about and have the viewing public be very interested. It would be survivor, the WS of poker, and pitmasters all wrapped up into one.
 
Slamdunkpro said:
The WSOP prize pool is entirely player (entry fee) funded
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Yes, but we only pay $250. If that doubled to 500 and half went to the grand champion, you have $250,000 (at 1000 teams). Not sure you would find that mAny teams to fork over 500, but you never know.
 
If Troy Black was aware of the possibility that Sam's wouldn't continue would he participate in this video that was just released? Sam's is mentioned quite a bit in it. I know he is not likely directly involved in the decision making process but I would think he would at least be 'in the know'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7D5Jn_imBE&list=UUSeKtP7bqePrJqi99UX2NSQ
 
Do all of the Sam's do the contest? I havent heard of it around here.
 
Slamdunkpro said:
The WSOP prize pool is entirely player (entry fee) funded
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How far out does WSOP pay? Do they pay a new entry fee at each level? I know our local casino has poker contests and the winner gets a paid trip to the next level. (would this be a WSOP competition?)
 
cynfulsmokersbbq said:
How far out does WSOP pay? Do they pay a new entry fee at each level? I know our local casino has poker contests and the winner gets a paid trip to the next level. (would this be a WSOP competition?)
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Your local casino is likely hosting WSOP circuit events if the winner gets a trip to another contest. But in a Circuit event (official WSOP) the winners also take home money, not just a seat at the WSOP Main event. Or the caisno is just holding a private tournament with the winner getting trip to the WSOP Main event (which is typical too). During the actual WSOP event in Vegas, I believe they pay the top 10% of the field, which is normal for most cash paying poker events (WSOP or non WSOP).

I don't think you can make a true apples to apples comparison because there are several ways to get into the WSOP between various qualifiers and or just paying the entry fee.

It would be nice if something like Sam's did not require you to pay for each round as you progress, but then again its nice to have a big event and a big sponsor, and you'll likely have won at least $250 during the first round to pay the entry fee for the 2nd round.
 
eggzlot said:
It would be nice if something like Sam's did not require you to pay for each round as you progress, but then again its nice to have a big event and a big sponsor, and you'll likely have won at least $250 during the first round to pay the entry fee for the 2nd round.
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Not to stir up the pot again but if the objective is to pay down so the money winners in the local have money to pay the entry fee+ to the regional then they really shouldn't let teams compete in multiple local events or teams that have already qualified for the regional should be ineligible for prize money.
 
If I am not mistaken, this was the first year they let teams compete in multiple events in the first round, no?

I was also showing that this is not a perfect apples to apples comparision to the WSOP structure, that's all. They could probably change up the structure a bit, but given what else we have for a big national tournament, its not an awful structure either with a nice large payout at the end.

For us in our area (NYC Metro area), the Regional Finals are 7+ hrs away in VA, that is more of an obstacle than the additional $250 entry fee (if we were to make it that far).
 
I've won money in Sam's and the WSOP. Won more (and spent more) on BBQ. :becky:

There are actually about 60 WSOP "bracelet" events, not just the main event you see on ESPN. The main event has a 10k entry fee per player, and the others start at $1000 and go up as high as $25k.

Not all of the WSOP entry fees are paid out in the prize pool, just like all poker tournaments the house takes a cut. The Sam's Club prize pool across all of the contests is actually higher than the entry fees by a substantial margin - Sam's Club and the other sponsors subsidize the prize pool and the cost of running the events. So you really don't want it to be like the WSOP, the payouts would be much lower.

eggzlot said:
It would be nice if something like Sam's did not require you to pay for each round as you progress, but then again its nice to have a big event and a big sponsor, and you'll likely have won at least $250 during the first round to pay the entry fee for the 2nd round.
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It's not just likely, it's a sure thing. After the first year, they changed the Sam's structure so that if you qualify to move on, you are certain to have won at least enough to cover the entry fee for the next round.
 
eggzlot said:
For us in our area (NYC Metro area), the Regional Finals are 7+ hrs away in VA, that is more of an obstacle than the additional $250 entry fee (if we were to make it that far).
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I had to travel to to Medford, NY from RI, then from RI to Virginia, and then RI to Bentonville. Twice. Would do it again in a heartbeat. Any contest in New England we can reach without staying overnight is "local". :becky: (Of course I also drove to Las Vegas to compete, so I'm a little crazy. :heh:)
 
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