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Ok guys help me make up my mind!!!

I never said gravity feed is wrong, I said I (JUST ME) don't understand the need. To me (AND ONLY ME) it seems gravity feed has the possibility to jam with an oversized or odd shaped piece of charcoal where a charcoal basket is just a hunk of metal without moving parts.

And I never typed that you think gravity feed is wrong.........
 
I never said gravity feed is wrong, I said I (JUST ME) don't understand the need. To me (AND ONLY ME) it seems gravity feed has the possibility to jam with an oversized or odd shaped piece of charcoal where a charcoal basket is just a hunk of metal without moving parts.
Never had mine jam/bridge using quality briquettes. No moving parts in mine, either, so I think your understanding of them may be a bit off.
 
Never had mine jam/bridge using quality briquettes. No moving parts in mine, either, so I think your understanding of them is a bit off.

Yes exactly. Different strokes :mrgreen:. Every cooker has their pro's and con's. And different people will think the con's are pro's on one cooker and pro's are con's. Some want the moving parts and think that is awesome and some like it more simple. What works for some won't work for others in a competition. So negating a type of cooker in a discussion like this is just strange to me.
 
Being that I have never seen either in person, I'm only making observations on pictures from their websites. The fit and finish on the back woods looks to be more refined. Feel free to tell me otherwise.


Wow. Not even close. Humphrey's has a powder coating setup at their shop. He does lots of multi-layer custom colors - think automotive paint finish here. Backwoods tend to rust from the inside out, and the design means that you have to pretty much dismantle the cooker to replace the components that will rust out first. (The thin metal under the firebox, and the internal double wall divider in the back that you won't be able to see rusting until it fails.)

Humphrey's uses thicker gauges of steel in most places, and higher quality fittings - because Chad Humphrey made a living repairing rusted out Backwoods smokers before he launched his own line so he knew what needed to change.

I cook mainly on pellets (FEC100) but use a Backwoods Chubby for ribs. Less than 3 years old and it's already rusting. When it gets replaced, it will be replaced by a Humphrey's cooker. (For $400, you can get a pellet drive on any of this cookers - maybe I will do that and go 100% pellet.)
 
Yes exactly. Different strokes :mrgreen:. Every cooker has their pro's and con's. And different people will think the con's are pro's on one cooker and pro's are con's. Some want the moving parts and think that is awesome and some like it more simple. What works for some won't work for others in a competition. So negating a type of cooker in a discussion like this is just strange to me.

Dude, I am not negating anything. That is why I said "understand" and did not use verbage that was definitive. I obviously don't own one so there could be an advantage I am not aware of. I was very careful not to say gravity cookers are bad cookers. I base my observations on real experience. In the not too distant past our neighbors at a contest had a gravity cooker. I will not name the cooker as to sway any ones opinion. He miscalculated the amount of charcoal because he decided to use his smoker in the grilling event the day before. He had to run out and purchase charcoal and unfortunately was not able to find his preferred brand at a supermarket (only store open at the time) on a Sunday morning (in the NE we have a good share of Sat/Sun contests). It was indeed crappy charcoal and he was experiencing jams. We gave him a spare bag of ours (we had plenty and usually take home a couple of bags not used) to finish up. I wish he asked us for the charcoal first as we could have saved him the stress, trip and trouble.
 
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Be careful Jason, he has an eidetic memory and will never forget what you've said to him.

What is it? Is July 7th break Guy's balls day? :mrgreen: I generally don't hold grudges (although I admit there is a neighbor that I don't see eye to eye with) either. :mrgreen:
 
What is the rack size on a Super Medium?
32" W by 38"D I think - I'll run out and measure mine if you want exact measurements. i can get 3 hotel pans per rack; one across and two side by side or 12 butts 4 deep 3 across per rack.
 
From a competition standpoint, our Assassin has been awesome. It has helped turn out some great product. As for bridging we have never had a problem. The Assassin design (this may also be true for the Rebels and Superior lines), the chute starts off 6" wide at the top, and is 8" wide at the bottom to help prevent bridging. But I also do a 50/50 mixture of Stubbs and RO lump, and I go through all of the lump to make sure the pieces are roughly 4" or smaller. Like others have said, find a cooker that fit's your needs and style of cooking, get your timings down, and you'll be golden. The Assassin has definitely been the best fit for us. Good Luck.
 
32" W by 38"D I think - I'll run out and measure mine if you want exact measurements. i can get 3 hotel pans per rack; one across and two side by side or 12 butts 4 deep 3 across per rack.

that sounds bigger than a large.
 
i would suggest forgeting about what cooker to buy...for now.

you're considering investing 1,2,3 thousand dollars on a tool for something you haven't tried yet.

my opinion, take it for what it's worth, is:
1)get yourself a 22" WSM and a kettle, some blues hog and smoking guns hot.
2)do a practice run or two right quick and HIT UP A COMP! "pro" division, not back yard.
3)reflect on your experience over the offseason and make any changes or upgrades as you see fit. then you can make more educated choices.

with that said, after cooking on WSM's for @ 5 years, if there was any budget for me for this wonderful hobby, i would invest in 2 humphries half pints for competing.

good luck out there.
 
i would suggest forgeting about what cooker to buy...for now.

you're considering investing 1,2,3 thousand dollars on a tool for something you haven't tried yet.

my opinion, take it for what it's worth, is:
1)get yourself a 22" WSM and a kettle, some blues hog and smoking guns hot.
2)do a practice run or two right quick and HIT UP A COMP! "pro" division, not back yard.
3)reflect on your experience over the offseason and make any changes or upgrades as you see fit. then you can make more educated choices.

with that said, after cooking on WSM's for @ 5 years, if there was any budget for me for this wonderful hobby, i would invest in 2 humphries half pints for competing.

good luck out there.

I don't care for the WSM personally, I've used them in the past. And this purchase isn't just for competitions, I also wanted a nice insulated cooker that will hold up well in the cold Ohio winters if I chose to cook over the winter.

Well guys, as much as I wanted to try to get to a comp this weekend and see some cookers in person, that is now a no go. Work isn't wanting to play well with me taking the time off unfortunately. So it looks like this will end up being a sight unseen purchase unless I can get down to the KCBS event in Cincinnati in October.
 
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i can understand that.

but it's not about liking or disliking a particular cooker, but rather competition itself. i'd say it would be prudent to at least get your feet wet before making any major investments in the hobby.

but anyway, for the dollar value, i would go with humphries. 2 smaller ones for versatility. you can cook alot if you like or a little, different or same temps/start times, and they are portable.
 
i disagree with getting two smaller cookers at once. I'd rather have one larger than two small, just my opinion though.
 
Attached below are the specs for Spicewine cookers. As far as I know the Super Medium is a special order and the specs are not on the web site.

Your post made me curious so I measured my super medium racks they're 26" W x 35" D
 
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