BBQ Options for newbie

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Hi all -

I currently have a gas BBQ but am looking to move to wood/charcoal and was hoping some of you out there could help me as I choose what to get.

In short I want to be able to smoke meat as well as do slow cooks for large pieces/whole chickens etc. I'd also like to be able to use a rotisserie, and also to cook pizzas (not asking much!)

I have a decent wood supply as I use a log burner inside the house, so I am also interested in using that as a fuel.

Firstly, I was looking at a traditional charcoal grill (I'm sure there's a correct name for this kind) - this one in particular was on offer down the road.

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I quite like that it has a front-loading door, meaning that I can cook a bit more with wood. It also looks like I could mod a rotisserie arm onto that, although not ideal.

My second option I'm considering is just to get a kettle bbq such as a webber. I can easily sit a rotisserie over it with the lid off, or get an extension, plus to cook pizza I can get this: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/KettlePizza-18-5-Inch-22-5-Inch-Kettle-Grills/dp/B005SFJLOI"]Amazon.com : KettlePizza Basic Kit for 18.5-Inch and 22.5-Inch Kettle Grills : Grill Rotisseries : Patio, Lawn & Garden@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41dFvn1DNsL.@@AMEPARAM@@41dFvn1DNsL[/ame]

However would the pizzas on this be any better than the other bbq do you think? It's quite a bit to pay for what is essentially a metal tube with a mail slot cut in it...

Third thing to consider is for the pizza just getting a chimnea which here in the UK is handy for heating as well as the evenings even in summer can start to get nippy...

Thoughts? Sorry if I haven't explained myself well.
 
Get a weber kettle. They are super versatile once you learn the different fire management techniques and they last forever.
 
Thanks - would you be able to cook a pizza on them fairly well without the pizza attachments and just a pizza stone do you think?
 
Get a weber kettle. They are super versatile once you learn the different fire management techniques and they last forever.
:thumb: For a kettle, the extra few coins for the Weber are well worth it! Also, check out the Vortex for the kettle, it will make it very versatile for a small investment. http://vortexbbq.com/
As far as pizza, I have a pizza stone and steel, I get pretty good pizza out of the kettle but it would be nice to have some more "top heat" to brown up the cheese and all. I have looked at the Kettle Pizza attachment also but read they still have the same issue with top heat. There is a "hack" on line somewhere where they add another grate in the top with a pizza stone on top of it to radiate top heat. If I buy the Kettle Pizza attachment I will be making this mod. But, to summarize, for charcoal, Weber .....hands down!
 
Yes. I've yet to find anything I cannot cook on a kettle. My second kettle handles the occasions when I need to cook more food.
 
Thanks guys - weber seems a go-er then, and conversely, cheap kettle alternatives don't.

Here in the UK the 'bar-b' model seems pretty abundant - recommended?

http://www.diy.com/departments/webe...95_BQ&ef_id=VIWNIwAABFCQRQLx:20150420162821:s

Yes, like frog said, that's the basic which is fine.....

The site he posted is for USA kettles though....over there, you folks have available some different colors & features......

https://www.weberbbq.co.uk/product-category/charcoal-barbecues/

It does depend on what you'd like to spend, but the MasterTouch has some really nice extras......
 
Dilby - that grill is what we would call a "3 wheeler" because it has 3 separate adjustable vents at the bottom - no longer available new in the US.
I personally like it best - I close off 2 vents and most of the 3rd one and you can
smoke at 225F for 8 hours or more. Or open up all vents and let 'er rip.
One thing - BUY a COVER, or keep it in the shed.
In the pic below, you can see I rigged a sheet steel pan as a deflector, coals on one side, summer sausage on the other. I was low smoking at about 160F for about 3 hours with this setup.

Here's one butt same setup - pour 12 lit coals over pile of unlit - cruising at 275F for 6 hours -



 
Well thanks again guys - I've been looking at the various models and the basic 57cm one looks good; only thing is it doesn't have a temp gauge, and to get one I need to go up a model which more than doubles the price here (because the basic model is on offer) - I'm considering buying a third parter temp gauge, drilling a hole in the lid and adding it. Is modding it like this a dumb thing to do?
 
Well, you can do that, but it usually just gets you a temperature up in the dome & not at meat level.....

It's a little tricky to drill without chipping the porcelain finish, but it can be done & folks do it without incident......

I just use an inexpensive oven therm on the grate to get a reasonably close idea.....

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I have a 22.5 kettle and drilled a hole for a temp gauge. Not a dumb thing to do at all.

I think the kettle offers lots of options for you. You can cook a pizza in them fine without the kettle pizza accessory which is spendy for what you get.

I do have the rotisserie and ring and it's really nice to use. Not sure what goes for in the UK.

I think the nice thing about the kettle is you can start simple and add in items later. Good luck with your decision.
 
I AGREE W/ BUCKIE - the lid temp is NOT the grate temp.
We both have therms on the grate to actually see what temp the grate is.
Don't drill into your lid,. sorry, not worth it. The lid therm is often 50F off
of grate temps.
 
Yup I'm tempted to choose the gauge through the vent over drilling a hole - knowing me I'd slip and put a lovely scratch over the lid!

I was actually in a store today and spotted this bbq which was on sale at the same price as the basic 57cm weber - reason it was interesting to me is that it's also porcelain coated, has what appears to be a better cleaning system, and also has extra features like cover included, temp gauge built in and better racks etc.

http://www.charliesdirect.co.uk/out...arbecue-2015?gclid=CNLalvTrh8UCFacSwwodvI8Abg
 
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