Lone Star Grillz Vertical Insulated Cabinet Smoker-For the new Owner

mikes1212

Full Fledged Farker
Joined
Jan 11, 2014
Messages
270
Reaction score
109
Points
0
Location
Chantilly, VA
There seems to be a number of us that are new owners of the Lone Star Grills Vertical Insulated Cabinet, and we all have questions and we push forward with getting aquatinted with our new smoker. A group of us hope to use this thread for Q & A of the next few weeks or so.

I have started my first cook and things are not going as planned. Last week I seasoned the grill and everything did go as planned. No issues, problems or unexpected.

This week, I have added meat (6 racks of St; Louise style ribs) to the scenario, and I am having trouble getting temps over 235. I have both 2" vents wide open and now that I have wood chips inside I am noticing a fair amount of smoke coming out from around the upper door. I did notice that the upper door closes and latches very easy, as the lower door had a touch of cushion as the door latches.

I opened the door and took out a screw driver and moved the latch all the way out and closed the door. The same amount of smoke billows from around the door. I tried again and adjusted the latch almost all the way in. No change. Smoke still billows out from around the door. :confused: I feel this is why temps are not getting up to where they need to be. With the air intake vents all the open I would expect to be well over 300.

The meat has been on for about 1.5 hours now and I fear that the ribs are not going to be right.

Any advice from the group would be greatly appreciated.
 
Last edited:
I'm up to 265 now, 2 hr. and 30 min, into the cook. It's a rain, freezing rain mix out there. I knew it would be raining, but last night I checked on the weather, and we were looking at highs in the low 50's. I jest checked, and they now are saying that we will hit 38. :mad:

I think I will be OK, the ribs might have to sit out on the cooker a bit longer then I expected. :drama:

Next weekend, I will have to fiddle with the door and see if I can get a better seal.
 
When my smoker cooled off, I adjusted my top door and it shuts solid with no movement. I think the seals just need to be gucked up before getting a goodseal. I'm going to try no water for some chicken tomorrow. I bought a second ball valve to get more controlled air in. And I'm not going to use water.
 
ggee, I think that was my mistake, I started with water in the pan! Right after my first post I emptied the pan into a bucket. Bingo! Within 30 minutes, 275! That is where she stayed for the last 1.5 hours. :doh:

Well here goes nothing! :-D


The ribs are prepped and rubbed


All snugly wrapped and ready for nap in the fridge.


The LS Vertical is wheeled out in the rain and a fire started. Wheels chucked for safety!


Ribs are out on the counter to warn up a bit before going on


The cabinet has been turned into the wind and we are ready for takeoff!


Two of the racks are cut and lunch is ready!


I pulled them off a little after noon. They are moist and tender, but I have done better! All said, if feels good to have my first cook under my belt and some pretty good ribs for us to eat. Learned a little while I was at it! :pray:
 
Those ribs look good. So after your first cook with the insulated (though still learning), how pleased are you with it? I read the testimonials from Chris' page with someone saying, "If you have heard of cabinets not producing a smoke ring or smoke flavor....IT IS NOT THIS ONE. Period." Do you feel the same about yours?
 
Hi tsimm, Yes the ribs had a nice smoke ring to them. High marks there, and the smoke was deep into the meat. I give my first cook high marks considering the weather and everything else that went on. I am happy!

Here is a visual of the weather. Picture taken after lunch.


First it poured on me, then when I was out saucing it started to change over to all snow.
 
No matter rain, sleet, or snow the insulated pulls thru. Glad it worked out. Many more to follow though
 
What kind of fuel did you use? Are you using wood chunks or chips and how much? I ask because you said the smoke was deep into the meat. I don't have a LS but have a Stumps and I have not been able to get a deep smoke flavor in any meat I cook. I use wood chunks in the charcoal chute and also in the ash tray. It does get some smoke flavor but not enough for me.
 
There is a lot of mass to heat If the inside of the pit is 40 deg. Plus a pan full of water to start. When it is that cold I recommend a weed burner to heat the walls and grates .
Also try starting without water, I think you will get a better smoke ring dry.

I mess with my fire a lot. I burn in a u shape so if I need to slow the heat down I pull the charcoal basket and pull the coals back from igniting to much.

You can also add water to cool it down.

You will figure it out in a few cooks

Lee
 
What kind of fuel did you use? Are you using wood chunks or chips and how much? I ask because you said the smoke was deep into the meat. I don't have a LS but have a Stumps and I have not been able to get a deep smoke flavor in any meat I cook. I use wood chunks in the charcoal chute and also in the ash tray. It does get some smoke flavor but not enough for me.

I used KBB for this cook, but I have a few bags of Stubbs waiting. I placed 5 Fist sized chunks of Hickory on top and along my snake of charcoal in the firebox. I thought the fire build should have been OK as is. One thing I did not mention above, the winds were around 15/20 mph with gusts much higher.
 
Those ribs look good. So after your first cook with the insulated (though still learning), how pleased are you with it? I read the testimonials from Chris' page with someone saying, "If you have heard of cabinets not producing a smoke ring or smoke flavor....IT IS NOT THIS ONE. Period." Do you feel the same about yours?

I'm pleased with the smoker! She's a tank! It was easy to get inside and tend to the ribs while cooking. The racks slide out easily and there is plenty of room to maneuver inside. I never looked inside the firebox, after I got her going.

My only problem with this cook was putting water inside. :doh:
 
Mike, I can only make a guess because I have never cooked on or been around a insulated cooker. My experience comes from a WSM and it was designed to be used with water and when I use water my temps are much harder to get over 250 compared to with out. I also think the air leaks play a big part also and once they are sealed up with gunk I know it will help. Being insulated I am going to rule the weather out at 38 degrees because you can always lay your hand on them and not burn yourself when they are cooking so the heat in there stays in there. I am with ggee on this one.
 
Like Ive said before, I dont use water in mine. I use fire brick to create a fuse burn. I get very good temp control this way. I also plug the exterior water fill inlet to ensure Im not feeding air in or out of the cooker though this opening. I want to control the air in and out with the ball valve and exhaust damper. Remember, Chris Godlander, the builder has one of these on his patio too. So he is a good source for tips and techniques. Here is a picture of him and his cooker at his home.
 

Attachments

  • smoker 2.jpg
    smoker 2.jpg
    47.4 KB · Views: 2,495
Shagnasty, What do you use to fill the fill hole?
 
Mike, ... and when I use water my temps are much harder to get over 250 compared to with out. I also think the air leaks play a big part also and once they are sealed up with gunk I know it will help. Being insulated I am going to rule the weather out at 38 degrees because you can always lay your hand on them and not burn yourself when they are cooking so the heat in there stays in there. I am with ggee on this one.

Dale,

You are right, the use of water was the problem, and the the extra click to tighten the door seems to be the right right move too. I tested the door a couple of time s few minutes ago and it now has a bit us cushion when I close it, and it closed with a hardier click as it slams shut. I am going to leave the door adjustment as is, and see how the next cook goes.

I brought ribs in to work to share with friends and co-workers for which I received high praise. They turned out good, but I feel I can do better!

Let's talk weather. Yesterday a cold hard rain that turned to snow. Today a clear sky and temps at 70. Hmmm.... I think it's a conspiracy! :tape: Just kidding! :crazy:
 
Hi Shag, just read your post. I agree, 100 times that using water was an error. I did build my fire as you described, with firebricks, and that worked great. I looked in the firebox after everything cooled down last night and virtually all of the charcoal is complete ash. I may contact Chris and see what has to say for advise on my first cook.
 
Back
Top