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What should KCBS spend cash on?

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Well the KCBS is getting a lot more money from SAMS Club. They have already allocated $30k to TOY prize money. It sounds like MMA is going to be pulling in more sponsors based on the discussion in the April meeting.

I haven't seen the contract with SAMS but I'd sure like to know the details. It shouldn't be private. Is the KCBS spending money on promoting specific contests for a SAMS TOY series? I'm hearing that there's lots of money going to be spent and some will actually find it's way into the KCBS bank account. So what should the KCBS spend all this windfall cash on?
 
I would hope the people we have voted for use sound judgement and do what is right.
 
They need to reinvest as well. While those huge money contests are awesome.. In reality, how does that effect the entore membership? Or does it cater to a select few? Don't get me wrong, I travel and I also cook in a few contests a year. But spread the wealth... Don't just reward the TOY teams... I am not in anyway diminishing their accomplishments, for what they are capable of doing is amazing.

I also want any monies that are committed to the end of the year TOY race be published PRIOR to the start of the season. This year it was Lakeland. Some teams that actually have to work for a living, might of had enough time to figure out how they could 'try' to get a piece of that.

Lastly, I believe that their philantropy should be expanded 10 fold if we are taking in that kind of monies. Don't get me wrong, my foundation has been rewarded with Grants from the KCBS. But we could also spend it on hurricane relief, flooding in Nashville, earthquakes, etc. We could help feed the children of our nation. There are numerous causes that we could support.

Those are some ideas off the top of my head.
 
Why not do that.... Scottie has a good idea... insted of that dumb azz rv running around. why not do disaster relive for the volanters... fema and other organation go to help so why not help the helpers? that would do 2 things get the kcbs name out and get them POSITIVE press... I know if thay came here to my state and said here is the cooker meat and such... please help cook for the voliters i would be there in a heart beet. but thats just me.
 
Well a purple guitar shaped like their unpronounceable symbol for starters would be cool.
 
Not knowing what the entire Sam's Club sponsorship adds up to, I don't think we're really able to suggest an allocation of how all the monies should be spent.

That said, I would like to see a good chunk used to promote BBQ to all - assuming the sponsorship provides enough for it to be effective. In theory, this would increase awareness, draw in more people and thus attract more sponsors.
 
KC_Bobby said:
That said, I would like to see a good chuck should be used to promote BBQ to all - .
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That is funny on about 17 different levels! Representing BBQ with Chuck. LOL

I know you meant chunk... but LOL
 
lack of editing skills - I'll go back and fix my three time revised sentence to make sense
 
To be honest once I voted and saw the poll results i was pleasantly surprised.
It is all about the BBQ to me, and I am glad i am not in the minority.

It appears the current KCBS board is on the opposite side of the spectrum - with the TOY purse going way up....
 
Podge said:
I would hope the people we have voted for use sound judgement and do what is right.
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You should probably listen to the April Podcast. It's nearly 4 painful hours but without a signed contract in April a motion was passed to spend $30k on TOY. That after it was discovered that all of the windfall from the Tour last year had been allocated including building up the rainy day fund to what it was before they spent like crazy on the Tour. Until then it was being funded by the Tour proceeds.

Divemaster said:
I guess I would like to know where they spend the money now... A little open financial reporting would be nice.
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I've never seen a financial statement for the last 2 or 3 years. Why are they not posted on the website. Maybe you want to ask the BOD.

Scottie said:
They need to reinvest as well. While those huge money contests are awesome.. In reality, how does that effect the entire membership? Or does it cater to a select few? Don't get me wrong, I travel and I also cook in a few contests a year. But spread the wealth... Don't just reward the TOY teams... I am not in anyway diminishing their accomplishments, for what they are capable of doing is amazing.

I also want any monies that are committed to the end of the year TOY race be published PRIOR to the start of the season. This year it was Lakeland. Some teams that actually have to work for a living, might of had enough time to figure out how they could 'try' to get a piece of that.

Lastly, I believe that their philantropy should be expanded 10 fold if we are taking in that kind of monies. Don't get me wrong, my foundation has been rewarded with Grants from the KCBS. But we could also spend it on hurricane relief, flooding in Nashville, earthquakes, etc. We could help feed the children of our nation. There are numerous causes that we could support.

Those are some ideas off the top of my head.
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And here's from the quick notes for the May meeting. Pay attention to who voted yes or no.

Quote Quick notes: Merl Whitebook made a motion that KCBS allocate funds, beginning the current year an amount equal or greater to the amount funded by KCBS for Team of the Year in any calendar year, to a fund restricted for charitable, philanthropic, education and scholarship purposes. The motion was seconded by Gene Goycochea.

After discussion, Paul Kirk called for the Vote. The motion was seconded by Merl Whitebook.

Vote:
8 yes, 0 no, 0 abstentions


Mike Budai no
Paul Kirk no
Gene Goycochea yes
Carol Whitebook no
Candy Weaver no
Don Harwell yes
Tana Shupe no
Merl Whitebook yes

Vote:
3 yes, 5 no, 0 abstentions
The motion to create a restricted charitable fund fails
 
I do find it funny that folks that voted against it, are still allowed to reap profits off of KCBS... I don't need to go into detail, as it is all public knowledge. I am sure there is some good reason behind it... I just can't think of it now...
 
I can't really vote without knowing the details of the agreement and if Sams has stipulated usage of funds as a term of the sponsorship, which would be entirely within their rights.
 
Divemaster said:
I guess I would like to know where they spend the money now... A little open financial reporting would be nice.
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Whether the BOD divulges the info or not, as a not for profit the tax returns are a matter of public record and can be viewed at http://www2.guidestar.org/Home.aspx

The latest tax return posted is for 2008, so either they are late with the 2009 tax return or it has not yet made it to guidestar. The 2007 and 2006 returns are also available.

You do need to sign up in order to view the tax returns, but it is free and painless.

You'll also be able to check on any other charity that may be of interest to you prior to making donations, etc.
 
While I voted for the promotion of BBQ I don't see that as excluding the funding of a TOY award or awards. Listening to the last meeting it sounded like there would be some substantial funds available.
 
I'd like them to focus more on the smaller contests. The bigger contests will already have the built in cash from sponsors, etc, and the KCBS spending a little extra cash to promote the smaller contests opens up more people to BBQ, and provides a great way for smaller, younger teams (like mine) an oppertunity to be competetive in a contest witout dropping a few 100K on a rig.
 
Scottie said:
I do find it funny that folks that voted against it, are still allowed to reap profits off of KCBS... I don't need to go into detail, as it is all public knowledge. I am sure there is some good reason behind it... I just can't think of it now...
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One reason I dont think that I would vote for the mentioned motion would be, what if Sams says here is $5million for team of the year. Would KCBS then have to come up with $5million in cash for a charity in order to take the money or give 1/2 of the money to charity...I just dont think that it is a good idea to place arbitrary restraints on money that you dont have yet.
 
Expand the judges training and give grants and funds to smaller contests so they can provider better power and water. Bring up the bottom a little and build a war chest so they dont have to sanction any ole contests who can clear a check.
 
Why such a push for TOY and spending so much money on it? It is already highly promoted. And why push so hard for the larger teams with lots of sponsorships money that can freely cook so many comps and push out the lower scoring ones to get all of the points for TOY. Why not divide it into two categories? One for under 15 events a year for us smaller teams that are struggling to get just a few comps in a year. There are a LOT of us that are self funding, so give us a break as well.

Why not give the smaller events a little push so to speak and let them get their feet "wet" and on their own. Let the field grow and expand the playing field.

Why not spend a little on more evenly trained judging. Why not spend more on table captain classes. The way I see it on the KCBS website, there must be abt 30 judging classes scattered all over, but only 1 table captain class listed for the remainder of this year. I hear KCBS is needing table captains desperately, if so, where are the classes.

And a little more push for comps here on the east coast. Most all of the ones I have to go to are at least abt 4 hrs each way.
 
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