Has wagyu become a bad investment?

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Last year I wasn't thrilled with the thickness of the flats on the 14-17 lb briskets I received but the meat was still good. I grabbed a couple 17-20 lb for the Royal and the flats were better with similar marbling throughout.

Wagyu is running $150+ for 14-17 lb and 170+ for 17-20 lb

With shipping you are looking at $175-$200 for a comp brisket without considering your cost to cook it.

Many contests pay $300 for first place in a category and obviously only one team goes home with that check.

We all hope and even plan to hear our name called last but obviously it's nothing you can bank on.............anything outside a first or second finish and you lose money.

I can easily see many teams taking a serious look at wagyu and deciding it just isn't worth the cost.............honestly I don't think anyone could logically make an argument that it is.

I see it as a necessary evil in most teams minds.........something they begrudgingly accept as part of the deal but I think if the current prices stay the same we will see many teams move away from wagyu.

The saving grace for wagyu has always been people believe you can't win without it and there may be truth to that but now even that motivation will come under scrutiny because it's getting to the point where you HAVE to win to justify the cost.

Do you guys think wagyu has reached the point of diminished returns or will teams continue to shell out $200 to try and win $300??


I know guys will say the GC is what they are spending that money and trying to win........which I fully agree with but I'm not quite convinced you need wagyu to win a GC..........brisket maybe but a GC doesn't lean as heavy on it because all categories are equal.

I didn't even mention "gold" grade LOL
 
Well I don't think it was ever necessary. A good brisket cook could easily win with a basic choice or prime brisket. Remember its not everyone in the field you are competing with but just 5 other teams as each table will pull a max of 6 teams at most contests. To me wagyu is more of a help to intermediate cook teams who garer benefit from the natural flavor of the meat. I cooked them and went back to my wet aged CAB's instead.
 
If you are looking at 1 category then only cook chicken, that is one that can pay, if you are looking at the overall win, or top placing you will do whatever you think gives you the best consistent results.

if you do not think wagyu does that for you then cook what you want, i think nothing will stop teams from spending the money, if you are competing then you have excess money. just look at the trailers and trucks cookers, does 200 really matter?
 
Yep! More of a "gamble" than an investment...300-400 for two briskets with a 1 in ??? (insert how many teams here) chance in taking 1st place...no brainer! :cool: I'll take my chances for a top 5 brisket @ $75.00 ea...one meat does not win a comp! :becky:
 
My .02 is that Waygu can pick up a slight margin on a well cooked entry vs a similar brisket that isn't Waygu . I would really like to know the truth between who did and didn't cook Waygu vs Prime or choice etc when you look at the Sams Finals brisket scores . The last few years we have not been great brisket cooks but when we cooked whatever brisket we had well it scored low 170s .When we cook the Waygu well it scores better.
 
BBQ used to be you take an inexpensive bad cut of meat and make it good by throwing it on the pit..now we take an expensive cut of meat to take the work out of bbq I guess. :roll:
I'll stick with the CAB's unless the price comes down. 1 category doesn't win a contest
 
BBQ used to be you take an inexpensive bad cut of meat and make it good by throwing it on the pit..now we take an expensive cut of meat to take the work out of bbq I guess. :roll:
I'll stick with the CAB's unless the price comes down. 1 category doesn't win a contest
You are correct 1 category doesn't win a contest.
4 categories win a contest. If I'm going to spend that much money and time on a comp I'm not going to try to save $80 dollars on a $800-$1,000
investment.
Yes I've got 180s with both but I'll take my chances with the gold grades.
 
You are correct 1 category doesn't win a contest.
4 categories win a contest. If I'm going to spend that much money and time on a comp I'm not going to try to save $80 dollars on a $800-$1,000
investment.
Yes I've got 180s with both but I'll take my chances with the gold grades.


Boy I wish anyone got 180's around here.
 
FWIW, I have noticed price of brisket coming down about $.20lb. at Rest Depot. Every little bit helps.

I am not so sure there are that many wagu briskets out there being cooked for comps; just my opinion.
 
Boy I wish anyone got 180's around here.

:laugh:Ya I know. Believe me I haven't come close when I'm out east!
A VERY good cook (that travels the country) made a comment last year that there is a region where wagyu does not rule. Hoping to have a few cocktails with him and find out where.
 
Competition BBQ is alot like going to the casino. Its best to expect to lose what you put into it.
 
I can easily see many teams taking a serious look at wagyu and deciding it just isn't worth the cost.............honestly I don't think anyone could logically make an argument that it is.

Until I learn to consistently cook a brisket correctly, it is not worth the cost to my team...when those days come (and I hope they're soon), we will consider looking at upgrading to a better quality. We have done well in tough fields with CAB, but we're just not hitting the consistency mark yet.
 
For those already spending the money and doing well with waygu it is probably a good investment for them. I don't think investment is the right term. It's more of whether or not it fits your comp budget. A $200 brisket doesn't fit into my budget. Maybe someday but not now. I cook prime briskets and pay almost half that price for them.
 
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