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Unread 03-17-2014, 11:34 AM   #16
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Nice job but...FB too small,inlet to FB and CC too small and poor location,no baffle plates,too many exhausts not enough in diameter in poor locations that aren't long enough.JM2C.It CAN be fixed though.
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Unread 03-17-2014, 12:04 PM   #17
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Thanks for all the help everyone. For now I am going to try and modify the box I have and hope for the best, not because I dont believe you guys but because I am short on funds . I will let everyone know what happens next weekend (im only allowed to play with my toys on the weekends due to my 4 month old twin girls)

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Unread 03-17-2014, 12:13 PM   #18
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All good comments so far. Watching that fire box will be a pain even if you can get it up to temp because you will always be filling it heating that much of a cooker. Good luck.
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I built my first oil drum smoker in 1980. Different versions with several doors / lids ect. What worked for me was a firebox the full length of the drum with a baffeled opening, this way you build fire where you wanted to enter, I used direct and also indirect heat travel patterns and both worked great. In my opinion this cooker has alot of heat loss and your boxx is not big enough, what you also could do is install the stove inside the oil tank itself, and it will go up to temp. But I would build a full length wood shed out the back there fore you can have big or little fire on any end.
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what do you guys think of this idea.. What if i get rid of that firebox and replace it with a 55 gallon drum and place it horizonally in its place. Then the intake could come in lower and my fire box would be significantly larger.. Just a shot in the dark.
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Unread 03-17-2014, 01:14 PM   #21
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The size of the drum would be good but it won't hold up very well and the walls are very thin so you will have some heat loss there as well. I don't know the dimensions of your cook chamber but you definitely need a larger fire box and I can't really see the size of your opening but odds are if the box is small then the opening is too. What are the dimensions on the cook chamber?
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Religously study the feldon calculator.That will tell you what to do next.
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One thing I think I see is a damper between the firebox and the smoker, this needs to be done away with and controlled at the exhaust pipe's.

I also think the inlet into the smoker is a bit high, looks to be above the cooking grates.
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I'm willing to drop by and taste test.

Great craftsmanship! It can be fiddled with to make it perfect!

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Firebox is too small. Too much heat loss with the coupling pipe. Not enough air in, not enough exhaust out. You need a large firebox with substantial draft to maintain a clean burning fire that is big enough to heat that thin-walled fuel oil tank.
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Unread 03-17-2014, 08:22 PM   #26
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Ryan the firebox seems to be to small, the exhaust pipes are way to small. Ryan that drum looks like an old oil drum or diesel drum, how thick is the steel on the drum? If its not at least 1/4" it will lose way to much heat.
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Unread 03-17-2014, 09:35 PM   #27
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it was a bit chillie in central ohio yesterday but it wernt that cold smoked on the lang no problem getting to temp you need larger opening to tank located lower in cook chamber below racks (heat rises) as anyone with ofset will tell you the 55 gallon drum is a good idea cooker looks nice you guys halve put alot of work into it keep at it good luck
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Why you building such a BIG smoker? You gonna be cooking THAT much meat? Is this to be a Whole Hog cooker?

Keep the firebox and cut the cook chamber in Half (right between the doors from top to bottom)............and add another pipe tween them or better yet notch them and stick them together like most firebox to cook chambers are..... and a baffle in cook chamber........
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Unread 03-17-2014, 10:29 PM   #29
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Unread 03-18-2014, 05:51 AM   #30
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I agree with the above that the fire box is way to small. You can't produce enough heat in that to really get a cooker of that size hot.

Also a 55 gal drum will not last that long if you use it as the firebox.
The thin metal will quickly weaken at the temps needed to keep that cooker going.

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